Topic 'Washington State and Frontier news' in forum 'Verizon FIOS TV' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23289396 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:38:04 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:38:04 EDT Oregon PUC approves Vz sale to Frontier (with stipulations) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oregon-PUC-approves-Vz-sale-to-Frontier-with-stipulations-23459628 Outcome of OR's PUC review last week]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oregon-PUC-approves-Vz-sale-to-Frontier-with-stipulations-23459628 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:07:03 EDT Re: Mt. Hood Cable Regulatory Commission to recommend deal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Mt-Hood-Cable-Regulatory-Commission-to-recommend-deal-23423852

NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING

CABLE TELEVISION FRANCHISE CHANGE OF CONTROL
FROM VERIZON NORTHWEST INC. TO FRONTIER COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION

The Mt. Hood Cable Regulatory Commission (“MHCRC”) is holding a Public Hearing on the pending change of control of Verizon’s local cable franchise agreements to Frontier Communications Corporation.
The Public Hearing will be held:

MONDAY, DECEMBER 7, 2009
7:00 pm
METRO EAST COMMUNITY MEDIA
829 NE 8th
Gresham, Oregon

The Hearing will be cablecast live on MetroEast Community Media Channel 29. The Commission invites the public to provide testimony in person during the hearing or in writing by noon Monday, December 7, 2009.

On June 1, 2009 MHCRC staff received formal notification of the proposed transfer of control of Verizon Northwest Inc. to Frontier Communications Corporation. In order for Verizon Northwest Inc. to transfer control of its cable franchises to Frontier Communications Corporation, it must receive approval from the City Councils of Gresham, Troutdale, Fairview and Wood Village. The Mt. Hood Cable Regulatory Commission has scheduled this hearing as part of the process of making its recommendations to these elected bodies about the proposed change of control.

Verizon began providing cable services (marketed by Verizon under the trade name “FiOS” services) in Gresham on November 25, 2008, in Fairview and Troutdale on February 5, 2009; and in Wood Village on February 6, 2009. Verizon announced the sale of telephone and cable systems to Frontier on May 13, 2009. The systems to be sold include the systems subject to the cable franchises granted by the MHCRC jurisdictions of Gresham, Troutdale, Fairview and Wood Village. FiOS customers in these MHCRC franchise areas represent less than 1% of the proposed transaction nationally, and according to the MHCRC’s financial analysis, cable television revenues are initially expected to represent only a fractional portion of Frontier’s overall combined business.

The Commission encourages the public to provide comment on these and related issues during the Hearing. Public comments can also be sent to the MHCRC at the address (above), or care of the MHCRC website (www.mhcrc.org) or by email to cjustice@mhcrc.org. Closing date for written public comments outside the Hearing is noon on Monday December 7, 2009. The MHCRC expects to take action on its final recommendations immediately after the public hearing. For more information, please contact: Carol Justice at 503.823.5385.


________________________________________
Carol Justice
Office Support Specialist
Mt Hood Cable Regulatory Commission
1120 SW 5th, #1305 ^ Portland, OR 97204
503.823.2005 ^ Fax 503.823.5370
cjustice@mhcrc.org
www.mhcrc.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Mt-Hood-Cable-Regulatory-Commission-to-recommend-deal-23423852 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:12:23 EDT Mt. Hood Cable Regulatory Commission to recommend deal http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Mt-Hood-Cable-Regulatory-Commission-to-recommend-deal-23423829 blog.oregonlive.com/siliconfores···lat.html

(East county / Gresham, etc)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Mt-Hood-Cable-Regulatory-Commission-to-recommend-deal-23423829 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 00:05:50 EDT Re: Oregon PUC to Meet Next Week http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23386439 said by CrobertGauth:

Interesting to note from this article is that Verizon will own 68% of Frontier. One could assume that they would then have a vested interest in making Frontier profitable. If Frontier goes down, they lose their investment.
Well, the 68% will be owned by Verizon shareholders, as Frontier stock.

To me that is a very important difference... If the Frontier stock falls, no impact on Verizon as a corporation - only to those who have held on to the Frontier stock.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23386439 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:29:05 EDT Re: Oregon PUC to Meet Next Week http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23386039 said by jasg:

Here is a recent Seattle Time update: »seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b···r23.html
Interesting to note from this article is that Verizon will own 68% of Frontier. One could assume that they would then have a vested interest in making Frontier profitable. If Frontier goes down, they lose their investment.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23386039 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:18:24 EDT Re: Oregon PUC to Meet Next Week http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23385454 seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b···r23.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23385454 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:17:52 EDT Re: Oregon PUC to Meet Next Week http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23385059
It's interesting to note that Frontier's responses within the PUC's purview have also been vague at times, not unlike their RFI responses to MACC (for the cable/tv franchise transfer request).

»edocs.puc.state.or.us/efdocs/HTB···5244.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23385059 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:54:03 EDT Oregon PUC to Meet Next Week http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23384977
Date: 11/17/2009 Action: HEARING
Description: Notice of Reassignment of Hearing (Additional Hearing Date Scheduled) served electronically and via U.S. Mail on 11/17/09. HEARING scheduled 12/2/2009 9:30 AM begin, 12/4/2009 end. City: SALEM OR Room: MAIN HEARING ROOM Building: PUC Address: 550 CAPITOL ST NE Reporter: KELLY POLVI Law Judge: ARLOW, ALLAN

Source: »apps.puc.state.or.us/edockets/do···ID=15601

See also: »edocs.puc.state.or.us/efdocs/HCB···2038.pdf and »edocs.puc.state.or.us/efdocs/HDA···4233.pdf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oregon-PUC-to-Meet-Next-Week-23384977 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:36:40 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23342588 said by pdxsam:

There's little chance of it not happening.

Government works in weird ways. While they'll bluster about stuff they're "concerned" about, fact is, Verizon knows well enough that the sale will be approved or they wouldn't have started the process in the first place.Agree completely.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23342588 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:20:05 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23341156
Government works in weird ways. While they'll bluster about stuff they're "concerned" about, fact is, Verizon knows well enough that the sale will be approved or they wouldn't have started the process in the first place.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23341156 Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:24:48 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23311833
Verizon does not want to operate in the affected territories any more. So if this sale falls through, I could imagine them scaling back operations in these places -- shutting down TV service, etc.

Then down the line we'd be sold off to some smaller operation, or slowly dismantled and sold off (FiOS here, POTS there, etc) -- even worse than our worst-case scenarios with Frontier.

Ultimately I can't see how forcing Verizon to stay in the game in all these places if they don't want to be in it will work out well for us.

None of this means I'm happy with the Frontier thing, but sadly sale to Frontier might just be the "best of the worst".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23311833 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:25:21 EDT Re: Oregon and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-and-Frontier-news-23299272
"But Frontier officials say they intend to persuade state regulators of the sale’s merits, rather than compromise with them."

"Persuade"? Really? No compromise? Blargh.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-and-Frontier-news-23299272 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:15:41 EDT Re: Oregon and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-and-Frontier-news-23299216 If I were a regulator, this statement would put me off.

"And he said there’s no chance that Verizon and Frontier might renegotiate the sale to exclude Oregon and Washington, should regulatory approval prove unobtainable.

“It’s all or nothing,” Whitehouse said."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oregon-and-Frontier-news-23299216 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:05:18 EDT Oregon and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oregon-and-Frontier-news-23298904 The latest from Oregon and Washington:

"Lots of risk, with very little upside.

That’s how regulatory staff in Oregon and Washington judge Verizon Communications’ plan to sell its phone, Internet and cable TV business to Frontier Communications Corp."

»blog.oregonlive.com/siliconfores···e_f.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Oregon-and-Frontier-news-23298904 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:12:27 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298712
Maybe Verizon has us spoiled, but we don't want to lose what we have. Just as many folks would love to have FIOS TV if they could get it, and wouldn't want to give it up once they did.

If Frontier fails to deliver the level of quality TV service we've come to enjoy, we may be up a creek without a paddle. Which could mean goodbye to the largest channel lineup around, the great VOD, the Multiroom DVR, FIOS Widgets, Games, Media Manager, etc.

Who knows what we may end up settling for, or all the compromises we'd have to make to go back to cable or get satelite TV (either one with many fewer channels and other features, maybe for more money).

I've e-mailed state government officials in Indianapolis, who should be in the loop on this, but I haven't gotten any replies.

So, I pray that if the deal goes through, Frontier will somehow pull this off. It may take a miracle, but right now, hope is all we've got.
Mark F]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298712 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:28:46 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298645 said by mystryfiostk:

It's not BS. Maybe he should have clarified, but most people who are following this transaction knows that Verizon Northwest is wholly going to Frontier. I'm well aware of the transaction.

I was responding to the statement by an anonymous poster "there is no FIOS in California", which is flat wrong.
It may be a foregone conclusion that it will end up in Frontier's hands, but it hasn't happened yet]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298645 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:13:52 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298598 said by birdfeedr:

Hmmm. Comcast is also party to the proceedings. Interesting.
Just about every telecommunications/internet related company in the area is (e.g. Level3) as they all have a vested interest in the local peering points / infrastructure (at least as far as I can tell)

BTW, I agree completely with your statements/analysis above. If the union/attorneys knew that the PUC was reluctant allow IBEW's participation, all the more reason for the union/attorneys to step v e r y c a r e f u l l y.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298598 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:03:46 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298369 said by pugetsounder :

For what its worth, the union's position on why: ...
I have no axe to grind either way. But one thing I *do* know is that law is a structure of rules and language that spell out clearly what you can and cannot do. Skill is required in interpreting that language, and that's what lawyers get paid to do.

Counsel for IBEW clearly stepped over the bounds set by Oregon PUC, and they're getting called on it. Whether it happened by oversight or other is not material, especially since it was laid out at the beginning that IBEW's participation was granted with reservations. Why the hesitation? Because they used confidential information improperly in a previous case before the PUC.

ALJ said "watch it", IBEW counsel tried to squeak around a strict interpretation and got caught. The only consolation is that the info presented to Pennsylvania is still admissible (and does not reflect favorably on Verizon).

Hmmm. Comcast is also party to the proceedings. Interesting.

At least that's how I read it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23298369 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:16:19 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23297367 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23297367 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:44:52 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23296033 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23296033 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:48:43 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23295384 said by darcilicious:

said by pugetsounder :

What could be seen as "good news" on this website because of such overwhelming anti-union sentiment here, but is bad news for people that don't want the sale to go through - is down in Oregon, the state has barred the union from intervening in the sale.
I'm not particularly pro- or anti-union (even though I belong to one because of my job). For better or worse, it would appear from what I've read at the Oregon PUC site, the union brought it on themselves (being barred from intervening). They were told exactly what the limits were of their participation and they overstepped those boundaries.

Interested folks can poke around here »apps.puc.state.or.us/edockets/do···ID=15601 and decide for themselves (See specifically Order No: 09-409.
For what its worth, the union's position on why:

The Oregon PUC stated that our attorney, Scott Rubin used confidential information from Verizon when he prepared a filing before the Pennsylvania Commission. No one has alleged that he disclosed any confidential information to anyone outside of the case in Oregon; only that he "used" it when preparing a filing in another state. In addition, Scott Rubin stated that in his opinion the information used was not even confidential because it was taken directly from filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, but the page in Verizon's document was marked confidential. The Oregon PUC had reluctantly allowed IBEW 89 to intervene in the case, and it appears that they used this minor infraction (if it was even that) as an excuse to remove us from the case.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23295384 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:18:13 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23295335 said by More Fiber:

said by pugetsounder :

Of course, there is no fios in california, so maybe it bodes differently for OR and WA.
BS. VHO3 is in California.

From a 2007 news release:
quote:
The company currently offers FiOS TV service in parts of ten states: California, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.


From another press release:
quote:
Verizon's state-issued franchise covers all or portions of the following communities:

Artesia, Bellflower, Calimesa, Cathedral City, Chino, Claremont, Coachella, Desert Hot Springs, Diamond Bar, Fountain Valley, Garden Grove, Hawaiian Gardens, Huntington Beach, Indian Wells, Indio, Industry, La Quinta, La Verne, Lakewood, Long Beach, Montclair, Moreno Valley, Norwalk, Palm Desert, Palm Springs, Palos Verdes Estates, Pomona, Rancho Cucamonga, Rancho Mirage, Rancho Palos Verdes, Rolling Hills, Rolling Hills Estates, San Dimas, San Jacinto, Santa Fe Springs, Santa Monica, Seal Beach, Signal Hill, Stanton, Torrance, Upland, Victorville, Walnut, Westminster, Yucaipa

It's not BS. Maybe he should have clarified, but most people who are following this transaction knows that Verizon Northwest is wholly going to Frontier.

Verizon Northwest is Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and Northern California.

But then again, from PA it's all "out west" to you, right ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23295335 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:50:02 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23295186 said by pugetsounder :

What could be seen as "good news" on this website because of such overwhelming anti-union sentiment here, but is bad news for people that don't want the sale to go through - is down in Oregon, the state has barred the union from intervening in the sale.
I'm not particularly pro- or anti-union (even though I belong to one because of my job). For better or worse, it would appear from what I've read at the Oregon PUC site, the union brought it on themselves (being barred from intervening). They were told exactly what the limits were of their participation and they overstepped those boundaries.

Interested folks can poke around here »apps.puc.state.or.us/edockets/do···ID=15601 and decide for themselves (See specifically Order No: 09-409.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23295186 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:20:17 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23294805 IIRC, they're only selling a few COs in CA, near the NV border.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23294805 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:49:22 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23294475 said by pugetsounder :

Of course, there is no fios in california, so maybe it bodes differently for OR and WA.
BS. VHO3 is in California.

From a 2007 news release:
quote:
The company currently offers FiOS TV service in parts of ten states: California, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.


From another press release:
quote:
Verizon's state-issued franchise covers all or portions of the following communities:

Artesia, Bellflower, Calimesa, Cathedral City, Chino, Claremont, Coachella, Desert Hot Springs, Diamond Bar, Fountain Valley, Garden Grove, Hawaiian Gardens, Huntington Beach, Indian Wells, Indio, Industry, La Quinta, La Verne, Lakewood, Long Beach, Montclair, Moreno Valley, Norwalk, Palm Desert, Palm Springs, Palos Verdes Estates, Pomona, Rancho Cucamonga, Rancho Mirage, Rancho Palos Verdes, Rolling Hills, Rolling Hills Estates, San Dimas, San Jacinto, Santa Fe Springs, Santa Monica, Seal Beach, Signal Hill, Stanton, Torrance, Upland, Victorville, Walnut, Westminster, Yucaipa
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23294475 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:31:04 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23294235
one good thing is that if washington does put up a fuss, it will cause problems for oregon, because their operations are so intertwined (Verizon Northwest). however, california is also part of VZ Northwest, and they were recently approved. Of course, there is no fios in california, so maybe it bodes differently for OR and WA. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23294235 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:34:04 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23292379
The commission has received 93 public comments with five in favor, 40 undecided and 48 opposed to the proposed sale. Customers who would like to comment on the case are encouraged to do so by mailing their correspondence to: P.O. Box 47250 Olympia, Wash., 98504; e-mail comments to comments@utc.wa.gov or call toll-free 1-888-333-9882. The commission’s deadline for accepting public comments is Jan. 11, 2010.

The full press release is here:
»www.wutc.wa.gov/webimage.nsf/0/E···000077CE]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23292379 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:27:57 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291251
Secondly, previous post-sales failures aren't the only reasons cited, the article also says:

The WUTC staff said it doubts Frontier would be able to raise capital for wireline improvements because the company's credit rating is lower than Verizon's. The staff also said it's concerned Frontier "will not succeed in generating synergies from this transaction because the phone company will face higher per unit costs in the Washington operations than Verizon faces today."
Two very clear, financially-based reasons.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291251 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:12:18 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291247
If they have a legitimate beef, then fine... I'm all for them pressing it. But to say that the deal shouldn't go through but they don't provide any reason behind it... well (and not to overstate it) but that's tyranny. A very very soft form of it, to be sure, but still it's a government entity exerting control over a private entity (or 2, in this case) for no valid reason. We wouldn't stand for it in a court of law when prosecuting someone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291247 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:11:47 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291201
lol, I agree with you on your points though ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291201 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:03:31 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291131
However, I do think that there should be a lessons learned in the other deals. Meaning that they really need to look at where things went wrong in assessing the risk of the other spin offs. Why didn't the regulators find the potential land-mines with the Fairpoint deal, e.g.? I agree that such a determination should be made, and findings could/should be employed in future similar dealings. But to just make the statement 'see what happened over there in New England? That's why this deal shouldn't go through' is just not enough.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23291131 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:54:03 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290795 said by jasg:

The staff of the Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission recommends state regulators reject the proposed sale of Verizon's landline residential and commercial telephone business in Washington to Frontier Communications.

»seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b···n03.html

Let the lobbying begin....
Works for me, if it turns out that VZ eventually does sell off us to Frontier, it's not just a simple handshake and sign your name acquisition. The Utility commissions are doing their job, can't ask for any more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290795 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:53:01 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290609 said by fishacura:

Funny, I thought this was America lol
It is :) It's all about the lobbyists :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290609 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:24:02 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290592 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290592 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:21:42 EDT Re: Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290345
I would love for both Washington and Oregon to say NO.
As you just said, once the lobbying begins it's all over.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23290345 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:42:13 EDT Washington State and Frontier news http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23289396 The staff of the Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission recommends state regulators reject the proposed sale of Verizon's landline residential and commercial telephone business in Washington to Frontier Communications.

»seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b···n03.html

Let the lobbying begin....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Washington-State-and-Frontier-news-23289396 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:12:46 EDT