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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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You'd better not piss off some Fanboi

.... he could have you banned off the Internet for life by simply issuing false infringement notices against you.

You get blackballed without any chance to defend yourself or appeal process (Your ISP will be required to kick you off by International law even if no proof is provided, all they have to do is get the notices of infringement activity on your IP.)

Banned for life. Apparently, world-wide, too.

Things just keep getting more and more fubar every year. Eventually the dissaffected and disavowed will have to push back with the only tools that will be available to them: Violence.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

let us hope that you are wrong.

Although I don't think you are wrong i'm afraid.

Seriously though, with the new massive NSA data center in Utah.
The pres has officially been given the power to override government AND PRIVATE networks in the pretense of a so called "Cyber security emergency".....
which is something that happens everyday for years thanks to the Russians and Chinese.

So that's all it would take??? is a large DDOS attack for them to accept as an excuse to declare this so called "Cyber security emergency"

heh, will hackers no longer be called hackers?
Will they be called "Cyber terrorists?"


Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

So my question to everyone here who can answer it is...

In that event...

Is it even possible to shut down ALL networks and communications nationwide??

How could we fight against it ???

COULD we fight against it ???

What kind of alternatives would we all use if something like that ever happened to arise???



Kylemaul
Lovin' My Firefox
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join:2001-03-30
North Port, FL

It's just two post above yours.

said by KrK:

Eventually the dissaffected and disavowed will have to push back with the only tools that will be available to them: Violence.

Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

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yeah, I read that, but...

Violence is not the only tool, possibly last resort if anything.

But I'm asking about all the non-violent ways we can fight back?

Can't we fight back with ACTUAL tools and technology as a means of establishing our own communications?

I think we can ALL learn from the Iranian revolution 2.0 how they did things when all communications were cut.



Kylemaul
Lovin' My Firefox
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join:2001-03-30
North Port, FL

I could see wifi becoming its own independent internet of sorts.


Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

Either that, or...

maybe someone somewhere will build their own wireless network devices with ranges FAR FAR FARRRRR past the limits set by the FCC.

Pirate radios and Wi-Fi routers will beefed up with amplifiers that are very strong.

FUCK all the signal strength limits that the FCC says we have to follow....at this point in time (if this happens) I hope people everywhere do the same and also start pirate radio stations EVERYWHERE !!!!!....and i mean EVERYWHERE

They can't stop us all !!!

Learn from the Iranian revolution 2.0 , when all of their communications were cut.


Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

reply to KrK
Since most Americans can't even be bothered to use their vote, I doubt that they'll use a gun (or any other means of violence).

I don't doubt that there are a number of folks who WILL happily instigate violence over such draconian ISP measures; look at what a lot of the PETA and ALF wonks do in the name of field mice and lab rats, but I'm not sure that such actions will help the cause so long as most Americans happily trust the data fed to them by controlled sources. IF a group or groups were to try and rise up, I suspect that they would quickly be labeled terrorists and the media reporting would reflect the agenda of the Powers That Be, rather than a more unbiased evaluation of the group.



KrK
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Americans don't care until you try and take things away from them they like. If people start getting banned off the Internet and losing access to their TV and entertainment, they will go ape****.

Violence is the last choice, but when your own Government is writing the laws you can't fight on behalf of corporate interests, and when such interests are protected World wide (so you can't escape them anywhere) you're out of legal options. All that's left is the illegal.

I personally feel that "Hacker" is going to become to mean two things: "Terrorist" to Corporations and Governments, and "Freedom Fighter" to the rest of us!
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini


Pv8man

join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN

Sir, you raise a very good point.

and I fully agree...they will defiantly call a "Hacker" a
"Cyber Terrorist"

but we are Modern Age Freedom Fighters.


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