Why Run Fiber When You Can Run Ads That Pretend You Do? > I remember when Comcast did the same thing.....

reply to Rick

Re: I remember when Comcast did the same thing.....

Prepare to be flamed by folks who want a connection with more than 10 Mbps up, or a connection with more than 5 Mbps up for under $100.

I have 22/5 Comcast now. It's great compared with any other internet connection I've used, short of my school's connection when you're plugged into Ethernet. However I'd switch in a heartbeat to a connection with 20 Mbps of upload speed. Makes shuttling around TIFF images of past school yearbooks (working on getting them put online) much easier.

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reply to Rick
50/10 is NOT available to me under $100. I don't have CATV. I don't want to spend $120 (which si what I'd be spending) on internet service that still has that pesky 250GB cap. If I'm paying that much for internet I sure as heck am gonna use it.

AT&T U-Verse has fiber, just not much of it, and without any speed advantage over their anemic VDSL product.

Fiber is the future; cable will eventually have to replace their plant with fiber. However if you have an HFC plant then by all means use it. Just realize that a fiber competitor can win against you on upload speeds, until you get upstream channel bonding in the field. At which point 10GEPON will be out and cable loses, plain and simple. At that point even a 1GHz plant full of DOCSIS channels won't be able to match the capacity of one PON node.

reply to fifty nine
You're correct, Verizon doesn't offer 100 Mbps FiOS because they don't see a need to. They figure that the $300 setup fee will be enough to scare away customers that they want from Cablevision. Also, personally I'll take the extra 5 Mbps up over the extra 50 Mbps down at this point.

I think that when Comcast goes national with 100/15 business ervice you'll see 100 Mbps FiOS get deployed. They've already done trials at employee residences, so the tech is definitely there to match and raise what cablecos have to offer.

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reply to iansltx
Fios, from what I understand, being a FTTH product is capable of far more speed than is known at this point. if verizon would just plan strong buildouts they could muscle cable co's but i see verizon as kind of weak in this field from a business standpoint.

reply to patcat88
???

Performance-minded folks tend to be running OS X or Windows 7 with late-model computers. It's the econo-peeps who are fueling the botnets...

reply to iansltx
Well put. Cable is still trying to milk 40 year old technology designed for television (not unlike DSL on copper pairs designed for POTS) and will end up in the same black hole unless they ditch this dead-end and go with an all fiber plant like FiOS. However, television is still their primary income stream and accounts for the bulk of cable profit so you'll never see them actually do it. By that time forward-thinking companies like Verizon will own the market.

Sucks to be Rick.

They will eventually but for the short term DOCSIS 3 can match FIOS downstream speeds with room to grow. If Verizon had an easy, relatively cheap, option for doing FIOS type speeds over copper DSL you can bet they'd be doing it. That's what cable has with DOCSIS 3. It may not scale as far but the question is does it have to? What type of demand is there for 100Mbit+ residential Internet even in the next 5 years? I don't think much at all. 30-50Mbit/sec is going to be sufficient for multiple HD IP video streams and that's the real driving demand for bandwidth these days. As usual the best technology at any given time doesn't automatically win. The winner is the technology that is most practical and you can get into people's hands the quickest. In the short term I think that's going to be DOCSIS 3.

reply to Rick

said by Rick :

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I don't know about you but I'm pretty darn happy with this Comcast performance..

Last Result:
Download Speed: 19473 kbps (2434.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 2023 kbps (252.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

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reply to iansltx
Then may be verizon needs to have ad that also states in the commercial, We have fiber home service.. most likely not in your area add. Considering they advertise the crap and trick dumb people all the time of Baltimore city. They advertise here yet there is no service be sides a few parts. Mainly the county......

The fact is Comcast owns them, FTTN and beyond here in Baltimore city. Verizon uses technology invented in the 1870 here. So really Comcast can claim all day that they have the most advanced network out their. Lets also consider the fact that all of their customers are served by fiber by on way or another. No so with with Verizon.

You know what, I can see Comcast over the Verizon.
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"Thats Daddy Comcast to you Ma'bell." "I love TV but god dam don't burn my house down" "Comcast subscribers have been giving local new channels high ratings watching Verizon set peoples houses on fire" "Now Thats TV"

reply to joebarnhart
You forgot to mention that no website can really handle those kind of speeds so it is worthless in my opinion.

reply to Mordhem
Verizon has a fiber backbone. I think they were the first ones to test 100 Gbps per wavelength technology several months back. They may not have as much fiber as Comcast in some areas, but FTTH areas make up for that.

reply to Heated Man
Except when you want to download/upload from/to different sites/clients at the same time.

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reply to Rick
Not to flame, but those are not sustained speeds from Comcast. That's readyboost. Comcast will give you nice speeds on a short speed test, but it's not happening on larger downloads.

To be fair, you aren't going to get those download speeds from most places anyway and readyboost sure makes your normal surfing faster. Comcast customers seem to like it.

Point is, if Verizon were available in your area it is the better choice and Comcast knows it. You may be happy with the inferior technology, but that doesn't make cable honest for pretending they're the same. Sure price and bandwidth caps should be part of the decision between ISPs, but cable knows they have the inferior technology regardless.