 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | Coverage Map Oddly enough, they've removed the direct link to their coverage maps that used to be on the front page of the website. You now have to go to Explore - Why AT&T? - Network Coverage - View Your Area. The default map that pops up in their EDGE map which covers most of the US.
If you want to view 3G coverage, you have to click a tiny little link in the bottom right of that page that says, View 3G/Mobile Broadband coverage (in select areas), choose your city, and pan back out to get a map of the US. |
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| EDGE is technically 3G, not 2G or 2.5/2.75G.
It's always irritating that everyone is just making up what falls under 3G and 4G. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by FattyAcid:EDGE is technically 3G, not 2G or 2.5/2.75G. It's always irritating that everyone is just making up what falls under 3G and 4G. Edge is an enhancement to a GSM/GPRS network capable of 200Kbps or so. That's not the accepted definition of "3G." UMTS is GSM 3G according to the widely accepted definitely, not only because AT&T markets it that way, but because speed-wise, it's compatible with EVDO. |
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said by FattyAcid:EDGE is technically 3G, not 2G or 2.5/2.75G. It's always irritating that everyone is just making up what falls under 3G and 4G. f EDGE is "technically" 3G, then why does AT&T's own 3G coverage map not include areas that are on EDGE?
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 SeleniaI love DebianPremium
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said by FattyAcid:EDGE is technically 3G, not 2G or 2.5/2.75G. It's always irritating that everyone is just making up what falls under 3G and 4G. AT&T and others cause that confusion in many cases. I simply just don't like calling EDGE 3G but you do have 1 point here. If AT&T used EDGE as part of their 3G map, it would pretty much cover the nation. I think EDGE is just too slow and old for them to advertise as 3G even. However, it might win them the lawsuit to do so. UMTS is pretty awesome. At least in this region of the country. |
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Call it 2.5G, 3G, or 42G......it's still slower than the general consensus of what 3G speeds are. |
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SeleniaI love DebianPremium
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said by RRedline:said by FattyAcid:EDGE is technically 3G, not 2G or 2.5/2.75G. It's always irritating that everyone is just making up what falls under 3G and 4G. f EDGE is "technically" 3G, then why does AT&T's own 3G coverage map not include areas that are on EDGE? Here. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G I dug this up when another poster corrected me about EVDO not being 3G. Thought I'd share it with you. |
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| From your own article:
EDGE can be considered a 3G radio technology and is part of ITU's 3G definition, but is most frequently referred to as 2.75G |
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SeleniaI love DebianPremium
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1 edit | said by Necronomikro:From your own article: EDGE can be considered a 3G radio technology and is part of ITU's 3G definition, but is most frequently referred to as 2.75G My point, exactly. AT&T could TECHNICALLY call it 3G and fill out the map. However, not sure how many customers would be happy with slow EDGE speeds being called the 3G that companies advertise and users have come to expect. Personally, I tend to call it and EVDO 2.5G. 2G was the old GPRS you now rarely ever see popup on your phone. EDGE is a software revision of GPRS that delivers up to 4x the throughput, but is still the same technology. UMTS(what is often called 3G) is a newer technology that requires a full hardware upgrade, but is actually fast and adds simultaneous voice and data. Technically saying 2.5 or 2.75G is not correct, as even I have found out. I still do because it is accepted and distinguishes between 2 things with very different performance in layman's terms(most phone owners do not know what UMTS is). |
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| this should be a new FCC policy. Incorporate into the FCCs website coverage maps by all carriers with the technologies they're currently using. |
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iansltx
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Wait, EvDO is 2.5G? Where'd you get that from?
HSPA could be considered 3.5G. HSPA+ could be considered (and is for the most part) 3.75G. EvDO is definitely 3G. 1xRTT is technically 3G but everyone calls it 2.5G, despite the fact that usual speeds are closer to typical EDGE than GPRS (2.5G). |
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| said by iansltx:Wait, EvDO is 2.5G? Where'd you get that from? HSPA could be considered 3.5G. HSPA+ could be considered (and is for the most part) 3.75G. EvDO is definitely 3G. 1xRTT is technically 3G but everyone calls it 2.5G, despite the fact that usual speeds are closer to typical EDGE than GPRS (2.5G). I didn't say it is. I was saying it sometimes was referred to as that. My link even says otherwise. EDGE is technically 3G too, but some don't refer to it as 3G either. |
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iansltx
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Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Show me where EvDO is referred to as 2.5G. I've never heard anything like that before. 1x, absolutely. EvDO, no. |
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| said by iansltx:Show me where EvDO is referred to as 2.5G. I've never heard anything like that before. 1x, absolutely. EvDO, no. So, you want me dig up some layman calling it 2.5G(many laymen do) so you can argue with him? I got more productive things to do. I didn't debate here about EVDO not being 3G, so I'm not sure what your argument is. My point is more along the lines of EDGE being able to be considered 3G, despite its limitations. Thus, Verizon best not get too cocky in this lawsuit. |
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iansltx
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Golden, CO
kudos:2 | You brought EvDO being called 2.5G up. Burden of proof is on you.
Verizon can get as cocky as it wants re: 3G coverage. If AT&T wants to call EDGE 3G, then Verizon can call 1xRTT 3G and win out over AT&T on coverage again. |
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