 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12
1 edit | Same old same old That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care?
They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? |
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 gdmPremium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
kudos:3 | reply to Matt
I read on BGR if you use exchange it's still $30 for unlimited data for single line or family line use. If your a business customer, i.e. large account then it will be higher. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by gdm:I read on BGR if you use exchange it's still $30 for unlimited data for single line or family line use. If your a business customer, i.e. large account then it will be higher. My friend called in yesterday to get his phone downgraded and they told him no. A friend (coincidentally) posted the same thing of my Facebook page yesterday too. |
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said by Matt:That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? Good point. Data is data and the rate should be the same no matter which device is creating it.
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gdmPremium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
kudos:3 | reply to Matt
Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. |
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said by Matt:That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? Actually:
»tech.ca.msn.com/pcworld-article.···22509198
The extra 15 bucks is for business customers who are already paying that in the first place. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by Euphrates:said by Matt:That is what you have to pay for tethering now. $45 + $15 = $60. Looks like they want to keep that same price point. I don't understand why they insist on charging more for the same data usage. If I can use 5GB on my phone, or 5GB between my phone and tethering, why do they care? They are also charging $45 for the data plan rather than $30 if you are an Activesync user, so I wonder if they will now be penalized $15 more than you currently have to pay to tether? $75 instead of $60? Actually: » tech.ca.msn.com/pcworld-article.···22509198The extra 15 bucks is for business customers who are already paying that in the first place. Paying it in the first place? I'm not quite sure I understand that? My friend (and I did as well) has a Verizon phone in his name, a personal phone, and is being charges $45 for data. When he asked if he could reduce to the $30 a month plan, they said no because he accesses an Exchange server. |
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Exactly...
If I get an android and it has the ABILITY to tether then thats why I bought the phone for its features. I shouldnt have to pay a monthly fee for a feature of the phone unless it requires verizon to actively maintain it.
Data is data and the plans should be written in stone... 30 bucks for 5GB... 40 for 10GB etc... |
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slckusrPremium
join:2003-03-17
Maumee, OH
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said by gdm:Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. |
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gdmPremium,MVM
join:2001-06-15
Mchenry, IL
kudos:3 | That's stupid though. ATT doesn't charge more to use exchange on personal or family plans. BIS to me is completely different then exchange. |
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 drmorleyPremium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL | reply to slckusr
said by slckusr:said by gdm:Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. Except with Blackberries Verizon or whoever your carrier is has to register your phone's PIN with RIM for BES access to work. That how they get away with charging more for BES/Exchange connectivity.
With other phones they just connect to the Net and go directly to their mail server--it's not like Verizon is filtering packets looking for Exchange usage. There's no need to pay anything extra and if you're a corporate customers then your company is paying for it anyway so what do you really care?
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by drmorley:said by slckusr:said by gdm:Well the BGR report was for the Droid specifically. I didn't know they charged more for exchange use. Like the blackberry you pay more when connecting to enterprise servers. Except with Blackberries Verizon or whoever your carrier is has to register your phone's PIN with RIM for BES access to work. That how they get away with charging more for BES/Exchange connectivity. This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. |
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drmorleyPremium,MVM
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Park Ridge, IL | said by Matt:This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network.
If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off.
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by drmorley:said by Matt:This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network. If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off. You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else.
There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything. |
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drmorleyPremium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL | said by Matt:said by drmorley:said by Matt:This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin. Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network. If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off. You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else. There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything. The PIN is linked to the IEMI/ESN and if the activation doesn't work correctly EA fails. It happens now and again and once VZW updates their records EA sails through.
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@Matt, more like $30 data plan, $30 tethering plan on top of the data plan, and an extra $15 to use exchange...30+30+15=$75 for just data services and that doesn't include voice...no thanks, Verizon is the biggest rip off wireless industry wise. |
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Wrong, you need to have the BES $45 plan. I have had to call the carrier numerous times to with the user on the phone to have their plan upgraded to make EA work. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by techjockey:Wrong, you need to have the BES $45 plan. I have had to call the carrier numerous times to with the user on the phone to have their plan upgraded to make EA work. I believe I said that.
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