Topic '[iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash' in forum 'All Things Macintosh'

Topic '[iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash' in forum 'All Things Macintosh' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296702 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:24:33 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:24:33 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23308849
We build Flash-based applications daily, some pretty basic, some pretty advanced. 95% of our deliveries are for Windows and we've yet to have any complaints about performance.
I'm hoping that's due to good programming!

I've sure seen random Flash apps and such things that have slowed down my machine (Athlon X2 Dual 5000+, 2.61ghz, 3gb ram) but not many at all. I watch online shows (ABC, NBC, etc) weekly with no problem, all while 'multitasking' with other browser windows, apps, email, etc.

Flash isn't awesome and Silverlight has advantages of being newer and likely a bit 'tighter', but Flash is far from dead and I personally like it as a platform a lot.

I do hope Adobe can work with it and make it more robust and dependable.
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Adobe can live on my iPhone as soon as I can watch any online video on my Macs with less than 80% CPU utilization.

If Silverlight can do it...
+1. Flash performance on OSX is completely unacceptable. I should not have to run Boot Camp to watch youtube videos.
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said by RARPSL:

said by obeythelaw:

exactly. adobe has become so bloated over the last decade that it's software isn't that great to have anymore. if my iphone got hosed like my blackberry would and i'd have to restart my phone often because of that, then screw flash.

Flash was not an Adobe product originally. They got it when the bought Macromedia. It has only been Adobe's responsibility/product for 2-3 years.

This is going to sound trollish, but I am being dead serious.

Either Flash has gotten worse in the past 2-3 years or people have started using it for crap it was not designed to do. Flash never used to cause all the problems that have started cropping up in the past couple of years. Of course, people weren't trying to push HD video with it 2 years ago either. Wasn't version 10 supposed to bring GPU acceleration anyway?
And the idiots disable this GPU acceleration for many accelerated drivers under Linux by looking for "SGI" in the vendor line, rather than using common sense and checking for direct rendering and maybe some glx extensions(if it needs them). Adobe software sucks. It's usually poorly coded and full of lice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23304517 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:01:48 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23304273 said by RARPSL:

Flash was not an Adobe product originally. They got it when the bought Macromedia. It has only been Adobe's responsibility/product for 2-3 years.
This is going to sound trollish, but I am being dead serious.

Either Flash has gotten worse in the past 2-3 years or people have started using it for crap it was not designed to do. Flash never used to cause all the problems that have started cropping up in the past couple of years. Of course, people weren't trying to push HD video with it 2 years ago either. Wasn't version 10 supposed to bring GPU acceleration anyway?
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exactly. adobe has become so bloated over the last decade that it's software isn't that great to have anymore. if my iphone got hosed like my blackberry would and i'd have to restart my phone often because of that, then screw flash.
Flash was not an Adobe product originally. They got it when the bought Macromedia. It has only been Adobe's responsibility/product for 2-3 years.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23304219 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:40:01 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23303597 said by obeythelaw:

said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:

Er, are you trying to say that flash screwed up your blackberry?

no. i didn't even know that blackberry's can play flash videos. but with my blackberry there would be times where the memory in it would just cause it to freeze and then i'd have to remove the battery to get the bb up and running again.
I'll give you that the mobile platforms aren't exactly comparable to desktop OS. I would say we are at the Windows 95/98 stage if you will where stuff kind of works and it looks neat, but the tech isn't there yet.

But, I would like to argue that is really the behavior of any OS, including the iPhone. Unless of course, the iPhone runs all applications in a sandbox and/or has garbage collection built into complication. If it does, then of course there would hardly be any memory leaks, but it could make the applications slower. However, with that model they may as well just have done themselves a favor and made the OS Java based like the Android. But I doubt the iPhone complier has garbage collection built in. The only environment that I know that has GC built in is managed code written with the .Net Framework. I could be wrong, anyone care to verify or disprove?

Which, to be honest, makes me very hard to believe that your blackberry screwed up due to a software bug because the blackberry has a Java environment which we know and love to be VM based. So, then we could argue that was a hardware issue and not a software one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23303597 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:06:19 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23301132 said by trparky:

The OS is Windows 7 64-bit.
Not sure how optimized Adobe's code may be for that, at this point. Try the switching drivers. Even given my first statement, a system like that *should* have no issues at all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23301132 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:30:56 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23301041 --
Tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23301041 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:15:13 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23300865 said by trparky:

said by pwrtoppl:

said by trparky:

I come from the PC platform and I'd have to say that even with a dual-core CPU and four GBs of RAM, Flash brings my system to its knees. It makes my CPU beg for mercy, and that's even with hardware acceleration enabled.

video card?

nVidia 9600M GT
OS? Sorry, I am surprised noone asked that question. NVidia's drivers have certain versions that can be temperamental with certain cards(Any OS I have seen). I would try a couple different drivers. The system I used to debunk the Linux full screen myth that people were spreading here was playing YouTube with the HQ button enabled. Some videos have an HD button that also works fine. System was AMD Athlon XP 3000+, 1.5 gigs RAM. Radeon X1950 PRO. CPU was not struggling, even despite Flash Linux version being inferior enough for me to net faster performance from Windoze flash under wine on some machines(not kidding).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23300865 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:42:29 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23300794 said by pwrtoppl:

video card?nVidia 9600M GT
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It's not the fault of flash that causes things to be slow but more the programmers behind the applet that can't get it right or go crazy building things that are made to work on a fast machine and don't think of how it will render on slower machines. I've seen small 300x300 ads that will grind a quadcore to the dirt, and yet full screen games that fly... It's all in the code and the person behind the code, not the platform.

It's like calling Windows/Mac shit because some games load like crap, even on a fast machine. It has nothing to do with the platform you're on, it's the people who built the program/applet that made it so CPU intensive.
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4 of the top games listed today were built using Flash and run great on the iPhone. During a conference about a month ago, Adobe showed the world how and why they were doing it. The message posted on their website is to stop the FUD that Apple and their users have been spreading (like on this forum) that it's Adobe's fault it dosen't work. It work, and it works great.

BTW, just like any other technology, it's up to the programmers to make it work well. For every bad flash applet that we see out there, there's a slow javascript, a bad Java, and two bad Silverlight apps (sorry, necessary jab there). That's almost akin to saying that you won't browse the web because Geocities or MySpace existed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23300397 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:42:42 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23300196 said by trparky:

I come from the PC platform and I'd have to say that even with a dual-core CPU and four GBs of RAM, Flash brings my system to its knees. It makes my CPU beg for mercy, and that's even with hardware acceleration enabled. video card?
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There's your answer right there, Apple is no different than the other guys, though they would have people believe they are.
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the only thing good about flash is to make fun of linux users for not being able to play flash in fullscreen.

silverlight is infinitely better

netflix silverlight streaming 60C
youtube flash streaming 80C
:mad:

Got any more false information to spread? This is not a new pc either.

Anyways, Adobe's just mad Omniture can't spy on iphones.

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Nobody happy about Flash's performance on any platform
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As for linux, it's trash. Besides for being completely at odds with the spirit of free software, the player crashes a lot and doesn't play very nice with Konqueror. Adobe could do a lot fix their image by opening up the specification and submitting a few patches to gnash.
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Adobe products deserve to be avoided in general because of their horrible security as of late.

How can a f'n DOCUMENT VIEWER (!) have as many security problems as Reader has? :uhh:
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I know some people with some pretty beefy MacBook Pros and they all complain about how Flash brings their notebooks to a crawl. I tell them that they aren't alone and that it happens to their PC friends as well.

It all comes down to this, Flash is over ten years old. It has patches upon patches upon patches. Hence it's horrible security track record as of late. Every time you turn around someone finds a hole in it you can drive a semi-truck through. There's a word used to describe that kind of code, spaghetti code. Interdependent code that goes so deep that there's no hope to fix it other than having to rewrite it from scratch.

And anything that will make my iPhone's battery life less is bad.
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said by corey389:

i even have the flash 64 bit on 64 bit Firefox no 64 bit flash for windows or mac

What exactly are you doing with Flash and your browser that requires more then 2GB of memory?
Nonsense. But to answer your real question, two reasons.

A.) Keeping unnecessary 32-bit sludge off the system.

B.) Performance. A programmer (or compiler) can assume a lot more capability with a newer 64-bit chip than when compiling for a generic i686 (or worse, i386) target. From Phoronix's Fedora 10 vs. Ubuntu 8.10 Benchmarks:

Now that Flash is supported in 64-bit, there's very little reason not to switch.
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Er, are you trying to say that flash screwed up your blackberry?
no. i didn't even know that blackberry's can play flash videos. but with my blackberry there would be times where the memory in it would just cause it to freeze and then i'd have to remove the battery to get the bb up and running again. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23299173 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:57:37 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23299160 said by obeythelaw:

exactly. adobe has become so bloated over the last decade that it's software isn't that great to have anymore. if my iphone got hosed like my blackberry would and i'd have to restart my phone often because of that, then screw flash.
Er, are you trying to say that flash screwed up your blackberry?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23299160 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:55:36 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298877 said by rv65:

Well if you're using a 64 bit browser like in Linux then you must use 64 bit plugins unless you're using a wrapper. Wrappers can be buggy and problematic sometimes so native is always best.
Right, but why bother using a 64-bit browser in the first place when the 32-bit browser works perfectly fine and has access to more than enough address space?
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said by Matt:

said by corey389:

i even have the flash 64 bit on 64 bit Firefox no 64 bit flash for windows or mac

What exactly are you doing with Flash and your browser that requires more then 2GB of memory?

memory is cheap why not have more than 2 gig oh what am i doing well surfing porn :)
I have 8GB, but I can't see a need for a browser to use more than 2GB. In other words, a 64-bit browser and 64-bit Flash is pointless and offers no advantages over a 32-bit browser.
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said by corey389:

i even have the flash 64 bit on 64 bit Firefox no 64 bit flash for windows or mac

What exactly are you doing with Flash and your browser that requires more then 2GB of memory?
memory is cheap why not have more than 2 gig oh what am i doing well surfing porn :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298692 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:24:53 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298604 said by corey389:

i even have the flash 64 bit on 64 bit Firefox no 64 bit flash for windows or mac
What exactly are you doing with Flash and your browser that requires more then 2GB of memory?
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the only thing good about flash is to make fun of linux users for not being able to play flash in fullscreen.

silverlight is infinitely better

netflix silverlight streaming 60C
youtube flash streaming 80C
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i have Linux and i can play flash in full screen and i even have the flash 64 bit on 64 bit Firefox no 64 bit flash for windows or mac ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298549 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:53:03 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298307
silverlight is infinitely better

netflix silverlight streaming 60C
youtube flash streaming 80C
:mad:

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Much better on windows... But if it "feels" bloaty there, pity us Mac users. :)
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Adobe can live on my iPhone as soon as I can watch any online video on my Macs with less than 80% CPU utilization.

If Silverlight can do it...
Flash isn't a whole lot better on Windows. I despise how widespread it is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298260 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:50:26 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298248 said by obeythelaw:

exactly. adobe has become so bloated over the last decade that it's software isn't that great to have anymore. if my iphone got hosed like my blackberry would and i'd have to restart my phone often because of that, then screw flash.
Flash hasn't become bloated, animation designers bloated their scripts and their vector graphics since they design and test everything on hex-core Xeons/Opterons. If they were required to make the flash applet fluid on an 800 mhz Pentium 3, then most phones would be able to do flash easily, and older computers would work much longer before turning into e-waste.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23298248 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:47:52 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23297791 said by sporkme:

Adobe can live on my iPhone as soon as I can watch any online video on my Macs with less than 80% CPU utilization.

If Silverlight can do it...
QFT]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23297791 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:03:03 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23297700 said by HiVolt:

Let Adobe create a properly functioning version of Flash for the desktop Mac, before they cry about Apple not including the bloated bs onto the iPhone.

When my Macbook's fans go crazy and cpu speed jumps 100% when simple web ads play, my iPhone would probably self-ignite and burn down.
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When my Macbook's fans go crazy and cpu speed jumps 100% when simple web ads play, my iPhone would probably self-ignite and burn down.
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If Silverlight can do it...
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I know it's a well-trodden subject in here. Just thought I'd post the link for interest. I think it's amusing personally.
even more amusing were some of the comments

can you imagine though how good hulu would be on our iPhones......]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23297051 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:54:25 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296962 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296962 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:37:31 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296827 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296827 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:12:00 EDT Re: [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296762 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296762 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:58:38 EDT [iPhone] Adobe not happy about iPhone's lack of Flash http://www.dslreports.com/forum/iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296702 scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/03···f-flash/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/iPhone-Adobe-not-happy-about-iPhones-lack-of-Flash-23296702 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:45:29 EDT