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drmorley
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join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL

reply to Matt

Re: Same old same old

said by Matt:

This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin.
Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network.

If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off.
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Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by drmorley:

said by Matt:

This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin.
Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network.

If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off.
You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else.

There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything.


drmorley
Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-20
Park Ridge, IL

said by Matt:

said by drmorley:

said by Matt:

This is incorrect. Verizon is not involved at all. I'm a BES admin.
Okay, go pick up a BB and only get BIS on the phone. Without changing anything with your wireless carrier let me know if you're able to complete an EA on your network.

If you are please tell me how and I'll gladly pay for the phone and ETF. I'm a BES admin and I'd love to know how to circumvent the wireless carriers ability to turn BES access on/off.
You only need to have the correct data plan and have access enabled once. Verizon doesn't do anything with the PIN. We've swapped numerous phones and we don't have to call Verizon to give them the new PIN, I just issue a new activation code and the phone handles everything else.

There is a possibly that they somehow know what the PIN is when we swap phones, but we swap phones through their web portal so unless they have some sort of IEMI/ESN to PIN database that automatically registers the new PIN with RIM, they're not updating anything.
The PIN is linked to the IEMI/ESN and if the activation doesn't work correctly EA fails. It happens now and again and once VZW updates their records EA sails through.
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