Topic '6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!!' in forum 'All Things Unix' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23300453 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:06:23 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:06:23 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23336979 - install as smooth as it can be
- added nvidia, packman repository
- compositing, OpenGL works
- restored my home from backup
- installed some additional packages i.e. skype, nero, thunderbird 3b4
- sound works, multimedia keys are working

No issues whatsoever.

EDIT: forgot to mention, changed single-click behavior to double-click :D
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The only issue w/ KDE 4 so far is that the resolution wasn't correct. After fixing it the taskbar does not cover the entire bottom of the screen.

Oh and of course the ATI repository doesn't work.
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I'm downloading the KDE Live CD right now. Does the livecd contain an installer?
Yes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23334708 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:56:22 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23334593
I was following the instructions on
»lizards.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/···to-11-2/

After performing a "zypper in zypper", and then a "zypper dup", I discovered that there were a number of packaged that were going to be downgraded or reinstalled.

I didn't feel like fiddling with that tonight, so I aborted the installation.

From that point forward, YAST wouldn't load (strange GUI error, even while in the Konsole).

So after changing all my repos back to 11.1, I did another zypper in zypper, and then zypper dup.

It gave me a list of packages that were going to be upgraded, changed, etc.

It got around 10% done, when there was a file that it couldn't find on the system. So I aborted.

Now neither zypper nor yast work... when I execute zypper, I get the following error:
zypper: error while loading shared libraries: librpm.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I made a backup of the /var/lib/rpm library & tried rpm --rebuilddb, but that didn't work,

The system is functional, but all my package management is hosed.

Any ideas as to how to repair?

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23334593 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:03:59 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23334368 --
My pbase gallery]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23334368 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:09:17 EDT Re: Just Installed It, TWICE http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23333164 said by Cajun Man:

Well when I re-installed it from the DVD I downloaded, I chose to install all 3, KDE, Gnome and xfce.

I like xfce, and I like Gnome. I'm still trying to get used to the new KDE. I'm thinking on seeing if I can somehow get KDE 3.5 on it somehow. I guess compile it if I need to.
You pick one DE for installation. After the OS install is complete you can install the other DEs and switch between them at login. :)

It appears that KDE3 is going to be 100% unsupported in the near future. It would be a risky mess to try to maintain it yourself. You could try installing KDE3 from the 11.1 repos. Just set them up in YaST.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23333164 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:57:56 EDT Re: Just Installed It, TWICE http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23333009
I like xfce, and I like Gnome. I'm still trying to get used to the new KDE. I'm thinking on seeing if I can somehow get KDE 3.5 on it somehow. I guess compile it if I need to.
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It was just too much easier for me to revisit CentOS with its KDE 3.5.

Basically KDE 4.0 sucked so badly that it scared me off even considering looking at later releases.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23332996 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:21:19 EDT Re: Just Installed It, TWICE http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23332870 When I started linux many years ago I've tried both KDE and GNOME. I've decided for KDE at that time. After openSUSE upgraded to KDE4.0 i found it unusable and tried GNOME again ...couldn't stand it. Then I've tried Xface ...liked it but found quite limited. By that time KDE4.1 was out and it was somehow usable. Later 4.2 proven to be very stable without a single issue.
I acknowledge that KDE 4.0 and 4.1 had many issues, but for those open minded you should try 4.2++. Granted, there are some differences from 3.5 but 3.5 user will adjust very quickly and as I I'm sure you'll find the "new features" quite useful over the time.

Keep your mind open, give it a try. You can always revert to GNOME or Xfce but there is a good chance you won't ;)

P.S: I'll upgrade to openSUSE 11.2 / KDE 4.3 over the weekend and will post my impressions.
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I'm now back on CentOS with KDE 3.5. When they go with KDE 4, I'll abandon them too or stay and gag on Gnome or some other desktop.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23332770 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:41:53 EDT Just Installed It, TWICE http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Just-Installed-It-TWICE-23332690 It SUCKS, and I'm a KDE devotee.
It's just *too* different for me, and I'm sure the gf's son would go bonkers if he had to learn a totally new DE *again* after weaning him off Windows.
I re-installed it with the xfce desktop, and it's "better" to me, and to him. He was looking at the "new" KDE when he came home for lunch, and he didn't like it one bit. They killed all the KDE Classic stuff, and short of spending hours to manually backdate it to KDE 3.5, we went with the other DE.
Sorry, but I think KDE 4.x is a LOSER, and I really wanted to like it.
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Funny it took forever to get the iso, but these are coming through fast. I know, it's using a different server than where I got the iso from.

I'll still get the full dvd iso eventually, so I can try the 32 bit version. Not sure what the network one installs, it may be installing the 64 bit, but then again it may be the 32 bit.
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said by scooby:

Does anyone know why they are waiting to release 11.2 when it has been available since 11/6 (at least for the KDE4 livecd)?
Probably to make sure enough mirrors have it before making the big announcment. That'd be my guess.
Agreed. It takes days to properly seed global servers with the number of CD and DVD versions, repos, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23329178 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:10:01 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23329045 said by scooby:

Does anyone know why they are waiting to release 11.2 when it has been available since 11/6 (at least for the KDE4 livecd)?
Probably to make sure enough mirrors have it before making the big announcment. That'd be my guess.
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Know where one may be able to find an advance copy?11.2 Gold has been available since last Sunday.
I downloaded it then from:
»ftp://mirror.cict.fr/opensuse/distribu···1.2/iso/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23327367 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:29:17 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23327123 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23327123 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:36:33 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23327075
Thinking about trying out opensuse this evening... I'd really hate to install 11.1 this late in the game.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23327075 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:26:11 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23325885 --
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PRescott7-2097]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23325179 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:19:41 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23322087 11.2 is gold]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23322087 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:34:24 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23314926 said by No_Strings:

Agreed. I wasn't advocating a "Die, KDE, die!" stance, but trying to explain why some object. Geeks have long memories.
Hmmm could be my new User Tag:The GNOME Says Die, KDE, die! :D
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23314926 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:44:38 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23312146 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23312146 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:40:45 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23312086 said by Brano:

Seriously, give it a break. Here is a right click on zip in dolphin.
KDE 4.2+ is just fine. Give it a try ...
Ok I used 4.x in openSUSE 11.1 beta and final and was not hapy with it. I didn't do any beta testing for 11.2 due to lack of time but when the final is released I will give it a spin...now that I setup a PXE server at home it should be hassle-free (including quickly restoring a backup of 11.1)
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It's different.

4.0 was hailed as the second coming but was barely functional. Crashes and broken apps were the norm.

A year or so after 4.x was released, things are still broken.

Some people resist change no matter what. Some are still objecting to the "ship now, fix later" crap, er, philosophy of the KDE devs when it came to 4.x. Others see no need to move to a less functional version of what they already like.
Well it wasn't really a secret that KDE 4.0 was really a BETA that they marked as stable. But I can say that the 4.3 series is stable enough for me.
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Newbie question, why do you guys hate KDE 4.3? I mean I understand some people like Gnome, other like KDE but what's the difference between KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.3?
Many features are missing. Silly little things like to right click on a ZIP archive and it gives you functions you can do with it. Configuration was dumbed down to be more like GNOME. The few times I have tried to use KDE 4 and overlook all that stuff would disappear. One time I logged in and the desktop icons were all missing. If you read mailing lists archives you will find that things disappearing is not uncommon.
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No issues, 1 auto reboot directly into system. Played with it a bit, have other stuff to do unfortunately. No problems so far. Detected other Linux and Windows OSes correctly. Did a custom install into my own selected partitions, did not choose SUSE's solution. Added a few packages manually, several system config items now performed automagically. Responsiveness, boot, and shut down times are faster than 11.1 (due to Xfce & ext4?). YaST seems fully functional. More fun later! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23311428 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:53:00 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23311088
4.0 was hailed as the second coming but was barely functional. Crashes and broken apps were the norm.

A year or so after 4.x was released, things are still broken.

Some people resist change no matter what. Some are still objecting to the "ship now, fix later" crap, er, philosophy of the KDE devs when it came to 4.x. Others see no need to move to a less functional version of what they already like.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23311088 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:24:17 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23310807 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23310807 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:14:27 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23309670 openSUSE-11.2-DVD-i586.iso. Believe it to be the GM. Will let you know after install.
EDIT: md5sum = 295d713314a30ad017948f0d542c6d92
We'll see if it matches Nov. 12th release.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23309670 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:58:24 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23309085 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23309085 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:52:16 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23308048 openSUSE-11.2-KDE4-LiveCD-i686. Very pretty. It would take some getting used to after using KDE3. Didn't run the GNOME LiveCD version. Looking forward to giving Xfce a spin when the DVD becomes available.

Needed to run sax2 after booting to obtain correct screen rez and refresh rate.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23308048 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:08:58 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23304741 said by reub2000:

It seems like 3.5.10 was the last release ever of the 3.5 branch.3.5.10 "release 61" as of now. :) Since 11.1 will continue to be supported it is possible that additional KDE3 updates may be released. It is also possible that KDE3 could be forked and become independently supported (very unlikely).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23304741 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:11:04 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23304441
Amarok 2.0 and 2.1 where definitely broken, but I'm very much enjoying 2.2.

To each his own I guess. It seems like 3.5.10 was the last release ever of the 3.5 branch.
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said by joako:

No, KDE 4 is an utter load of crap.
Have you actually tried using the newer versions? 4.0-4.1 was crap, but 4.3 is superb. Just switched from gnome and now using it full time. Runs just as fast as gnome did.
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So... I use KDE 4 and it works and always had from the expectations I had of it in whatever form it was when released. Excluding reboots and hardware changes that's 700+ days 24/7 on my main desktop. I don't try it a little or just use some KDE 4 apps, it's the full desktop plus little bits running I probably don't need but they're there and don't hurt me. I know how it works I guess so the repeated negatives here and elsewhere do become old and tiresome. I know it's performance, it's resource useage, it's good things and bad things and I know it works for the desktop environement it's suppose to be. Previously I used KDE 3, even used a week or so ago on an old box, worked good, got the job done but I still updated the whole system to a KDE 4.3.3 desktop and it still works just as good on that 5 year old hardware. Works fine on a 10 year old laptop too but that's just crazy talk...

The point is that it works and those that hate should use something else obviously no matter what the subject is but in this case it serves no purpose to repeat the same tired line like a sensastionalist ad driven news website would.

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It's much easier for the trolls to just post baseless and never ending rants than actually try something or to just shutup and use what they like. :) We even have some die hard Aaron Seigo haters here too because he killed their beloved desktop (except what they like still works exactly like it always has). ;)

So in summary they hate something new because it's not exactly like the previous version which still exists and works to this very day. Very strange...
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4.0-4.1 was crap, but 4.3 is superb

I have to agree with this...

Just upgraded to KDE 4.3 from 4.2, on OpenSuSE11.1... my only "complaint" about 4.3 seems to be that I can no longer access the Terminal (Konsole) directly from the desktop in SU mode... I need to physically type in SU.

I'm sure that I'm missing something obvious, but haven't had time to mess with it.

Is anyone going to try the upgrade path (now that it is "officially" supported), or are you going to stick with a fresh load?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302609 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:39:07 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302582 said by joako:

No, KDE 4 is an utter load of crap.
Have you actually tried using the newer versions? 4.0-4.1 was crap, but 4.3 is superb. Just switched from gnome and now using it full time. Runs just as fast as gnome did. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302582 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:33:30 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302476 --
PRescott7-2097]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302476 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:14:19 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302090 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23302090 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:11:50 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301609 --
AT&T Uverse; Zyxel NBG334W router (behind the 2wire gateway); openSuSE 11.0; firefox 3.0.15]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301609 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:53:31 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301457
I downloaded the latest RC and installed it in a VM. I'm a bit wary of KDE 4.x so I install Xfce too. The mouse-logo is cute. :)

My plan is to trick-out the VM while noting what I've done. I'll do bare-bones installation on my laptop first. Either with Xfce or KDE.

I think I'm an old fart because I'm not into the eye-candy. I prefer speed over flash.

Cheers,
-pablo
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openSUSE 11.1;KDE
ISP: TekSavvy DSL; backhauled via a 6KM wireless link]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301457 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:25:53 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301402 said by OutOfMem:

said by SUMware:

Unfortunate that you do not create backup images of your OS.
I figured the "worst" that could happen is that I would have to solely use my laptop for the next six days. And what do you know! (I did make a full backup of my /home partition, none-the-less.) :)
said by OutOfMem:

Any ideas on the fresh install / encryption issue?
Can't help with that. :( Maybe someone else can...
said by OutOfMem:

Now if they only stuck with GNOME as the "default" choice for the desktop environment...
Naturally GNOME is available, as is XFCE, etc. Just make your choice during install. You can install more than one DE, and easily switch between them. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301402 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:17:25 EDT Re: 6 Days To Go Til OpenSuSE 11.2 Released!!! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301213 said by SUMware:

Unfortunate that you do not create backup images of your OS.
I was contemplating that, actually, but when I realized how soon 11.2 was going to be released (and the fact that I was planning to do a fresh install of it anyways), I figured the "worst" that could happen is that I would have to solely use my laptop for the next six days. And what do you know! (I did make a full backup of my /home partition, none-the-less.)

Any ideas on the fresh install / encryption issue? The only information I could find on openSUSE 11.2 and encryption is a couple of feature request that started several months ago, and that the final release of 11.2 will only support encrypting LVM volumes during installation. (Which is fine, I don't mind, as long as it can work with my existing encrypted home partition.)

Now if they only stuck with GNOME as the "default" choice for the desktop environment... (Can't let KDE get all the attention now!)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-6-Days-To-Go-Til-OpenSuSE-112-Released-23301213 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:45:06 EDT