Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23300669 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:06:43 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:06:43 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23318279 Grail Knight : I know you did not say that and it was not about you anyway.

The intended member knows I was referring to their FUD.
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said by Grail Knight See Profile :

Not really historic when you have a limited number effected and turned what was a software bug into a crusade of nonsense and FUD about drives being damaged which they were not.

I wasn't saying that my hard drive or anything physical was ruined, it was Windows itself that needed to be reinstalled. The program just messed it up that doing a restore didn't seem worthwhile. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23318262 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:15:24 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23317851 Grail Knight : You may want to revisit that KAV chkdsk thread and read it from scratch.

»forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?s=···ic=14995
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As for the "historic" aspects of our thread on Kaspersky chkdsk problems, it cannot be disputed that our thread was the reason Kaspersky was forced to its knees and forced to admit what they had been doing. That makes our thread historic. We made a REAL DIFFERENCE with that thread. It empowered Kaspersky users and WE did it. NOT members of some other Security forum. Not even members of KAV's forums where it was being discussed but Kaspersky was ignoring it and denying and ignoring and denying. We, the members of this forum, exposed that mess and that makes the thread historic and should make every member here proud to belong to this forum.

Ironically, Avira paid versions evidently have a problem with chkdsk on Windows 7. Something in those versions is apparently causing chkdsk to mark the volume as dirty and to run at every boot. But I am confident that whatever is causing this that Avira will get to the bottom of it quickly. They have done the opposite of Kaspersky and are appealing to anyone having this problem to contact via PM and get a package to download to help test and isolate the problem so they can fix it.
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I agree that some users were effected by this but to treat it as anything more then a program glitch is ridiculous.

Anyone that uses computers should accept the fact that a program may perform improperly in which case they report the issue to the developer and either wait for a fix/patch or find something else.
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said by Grail Knight See Profile :

Not really historic when you have a limited number effected and turned what was a software bug into a crusade of nonsense and FUD about drives being damaged which they were not.

KAV, Norton, or Avast work fine.
Avira free has update issues for some.
Well, Grail Buddy, any Antivirus and/or security product that changes the basic function or modifies any fuction of the operating system, whether permanently or temporarilly, WITHOUT GIVING THE END USER ample warning BEFORE THE PRODUCT IS USED and/or PURCHASED, is a heap of horse dung to me...and it's morally, ethically, and maybe even legally wrong to me... Period..

That's why Norton disabling's of system restore without a pre-usage warning and the DRM issue makes it horse dung. and lord knows, I tried to forgive Norton a couple of times, even due to "RandyBell's" protests in the past...
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23314402 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:10:02 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23313917 Grail Knight : Not really historic when you have a limited number effected and turned what was a software bug into a crusade of nonsense and FUD about drives being damaged which they were not.

KAV, Norton, or Avast work fine.
Avira free has update issues for some.
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said by elios See Profile :

yes and yes
if you bothered to even look >.>
:uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23313751 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:12:02 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23313537 Sikki :
said by Mele20 See Profile :

said by evil_gusgus See Profile :

I went through this whole thread and no one has mentioned Kaspersky.
Maybe because of this historic thread:

»Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift..
I had KAV 9 and loved it. I'd still be with them but KAV 10 came out and ruined my computer. I had to reformat to get things back the way they were. I am now looking for a new AV to replace KAV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23313537 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:20:44 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23313166 Mele20 :
said by evil_gusgus See Profile :

I went through this whole thread and no one has mentioned Kaspersky.
Maybe because of this historic thread:

»Kaspersky, You lost me at ISwift..
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if you bothered to even look >.>]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23311726 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:58:39 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23310951 Surfinusa :
said by StraitShoot See Profile :

said by Surfinusa See Profile :

MSE would be perfect if they made it a complete all in one product like Comodo Internet Security.
"Comodo's" practices and detection ratings make me "cring"... I'd seriously think twice about using THAT product...
I haven't had any detection issues or virus issues.

Doesn't mean I don't have one but is any ant-virus perfect?

Besides that Comodo's firewall is what I am happy with for a free product it is stellar.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23310951 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:53:25 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23310945 Surfinusa :
said by elios See Profile :

said by Surfinusa See Profile :

MSE would be perfect if they made it a complete all in one product like Comodo Internet Security.

The Software Firewall makes all the difference to me.

If MSE added firewall I would switch from Comodo.

Of course MSE would have to be easy on resources like Comodo.
you DO Know Vista and 7 both have incoming and outgoing firewalls to start with right?
Are you saying Vista & 7 can block software from running by blocking programs the way a software firewall can?

And block ports only for those specific programs with Plain old Windows firewall ??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23310945 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:52:03 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309407 anon : My only gripes with MSE is that if you exclude a file or directory, it won't scan the objects if you right-click and attempt a manual scan either. Also, the full scan needs a pause feature.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309407 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:38:31 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309173 StraitShoot :
said by Surfinusa See Profile :

MSE would be perfect if they made it a complete all in one product like Comodo Internet Security.
"Comodo's" practices and detection ratings make me "cring"... I'd seriously think twice about using THAT product...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309173 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:59:32 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308521 elios :
said by DownTheShore See Profile :

said by normat See Profile :

For some reason I really like MSE. Hassle free and seems to work. I kind of forgot it was there until it caught something.
This is an example of how you know you've finally got the right AV on your particular system: you're happy with the interface, it catches the baddies, and you don't even notice it on your computer. :)

- The interface should be easy for you to use.

- The AV shouldn't cause conflicts with your other software.

- The updates should be frequent and should be unnoticeable, that is, everything else shouldn't slow down when the AV is updating.

- It should be able to scan your particular email program.

- Scans should be able to handle compressed files.

- It shouldn't be resource intensive.

I don't know how it works with the free AV's, but with my NAV/NIS programs, the background scans only run when the computer is idle, so there is no impact when I am using the computer.
not only can MSE scan zips and rars
but inside installers too so much win]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308521 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:20:25 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308517 elios :
said by Surfinusa See Profile :

MSE would be perfect if they made it a complete all in one product like Comodo Internet Security.

The Software Firewall makes all the difference to me.

If MSE added firewall I would switch from Comodo.

Of course MSE would have to be easy on resources like Comodo.
you DO Know Vista and 7 both have incoming and outgoing firewalls to start with right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308517 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:17:45 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308078 Kiwi : Given that a new OS is in question, this might prove interesting. It's far more relevant though that there might be lock-downs inherent to the OS that need addressing.

Even now after a couple of decades, I don't have issues with a virus I didn't ask for, to solve a problem. Habits [Surfing] still account for 94% of the problem and the other 6% relate to poor email habits.

It is a little unnerving to go helta-skelta into a new OS, though and security.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308078 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:18:26 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307964 jadinolf : Back in July, the avast! folks asked us to write a testimonial. This was my contribution:

Back in the Windows 98 days, I evaluated all available FREE antivirus programs. At the time I was using a paid version of a "Name Brand" antivirus program on my two computers. At the time, I had determined that if I ever decided to use a FREE antivirus program, avast! would be the one that I would use. I put my notes away and that was it for several years.

I did continue to evaluate avast! from time to time and even joined the avast! forum in December of 2003 to keep up with how avast! was doing.

I finally installed the 2005 version of that "Name Brand" antivirus programs on my two computers but began experiencing problems- not the complaints that most people experienced - bloat and bogging down their computers but warning messages like asking me to activate the program which I had done months earlier and also a message that the program did not have a repair feature and that I should uninstall the program and reinstall. A point of interest is that the uninstall program which this company has developed is probably one of the best things they have produced in recent years.

Finally, in late 2006 I received another message telling me to uninstall and reinstall the program. When I began the install process, I received a message saying that I had attempted too many installs and must somehow show proof that I had purchased the program. I had the proof but was so sick of problems with this software that I gave up and installed avast! on my THREE computers. As a side point, I had the 2006 versions of this software which I sold on the Internet for $1.00 US. I pity the persons who bought them.

I now have 5 computers- 4 desktops and one laptop and they all have avast! installed. The desktop that I use the most has avast! Professional installed. I really didn't have to buy the Pro version since I an a hobbyist but I like the added features and also wanted to say thanks to the folks in the Czech Republic.

Needless to say, I am extremely pleased with the results I have gotten from avast! and something very drastic would have to happen before I would ever change my mind.

I think that the friends to whom I have recommended avast! would agree with me.

Thank you avast!

P.S. They never even said thank you.
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A cheap router can do that.

A good software firewall is software specific, if you want to block software from running you can. It is all in the configuration of a Good Software Firewall.

Last I checked Windows XP or Vista or 7 has any of that other than a basic stealth port.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307945 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:45:02 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307936 userofdsl : PC Mag has found Norton to be the best security suite since the 2009 version, and I have been happy with 09 and 10.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307936 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:40:53 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307838 DrModem : I use MSE. I like it the best out of any AV I have used so far(Norton, AVG, Avast, Avira, NOD32, Mcafee), since it's light, simple and integrates with windows pretty tightly(You can get definition updates from Windows Update...).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307838 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:11:35 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307463 siljaline :
said by sded See Profile :

»forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=50582.0 is the latest beta.
Oh, swell :uhh: A Beta on top of MSE, yikes !
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said by MarkAW See Profile :

Avast was buggy? What version 4.8 or the beta 5, saying avast was buggy doesn't tell us much and if you are looking for help we need more than just avast was buggy.
Never hear that Avast is 'buggy', looking at OP's AV carousel I assume he didn't like Avast (like he didn't like so many other AV's). :uhh:
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said by amark See Profile :

Avast looked good but was buggy. I did an install and uninstalled and cleaned the computer. Home looks like it is working now.
Avast was buggy? What version 4.8 or the beta 5, saying avast was buggy doesn't tell us much and if you are looking for help we need more than just avast was buggy.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307196 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:14:39 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307161 amark : Avast looked good but was buggy. I did an install and uninstalled and cleaned the computer. Home looks like it is working now. Seems to slow down browsing. I have not turned up any infections.
Really wanted MSE, but as noted a lot of posts about MSE freezing my computer.

Thanks for all the reples.
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If it works for you, so be it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306974 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:08:32 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306770 jadinolf :
said by jadinolf See Profile :

said by SLD See Profile :

Time to change your avatar.
Not yet. I have 4.8 Pro and free on my other computers.
Now it's working. I'll keep the Avatar. ;)
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IMHO, the best is Norton's Internet Security. I did use AVG and Comodo for 1 year and it was ok. That firewall takes some getting used to and you have to tweak it a bit. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306754 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:02:01 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306051 La Luna : The OP has started numerous threads on this and other related problems. It seems he has more issues that just which AV to use. I suspect these issues are causing multiple AV's to not run properly when he tries them. Maybe not uninstalling properly before installing the next AV?

»Microsoft Security Essentials Freezes Computer On Windows 7!

»How Can I find Out If Anti Virus Or Spyware Program Running?

»Windows 7-Media "Center" Not Responding?

»AVG Free vs Avast Free. Narrowing Down Best Anti Virus

»Windows 7-System Restore-Unspecified error occurred during..

»Anyone Using Zone Alarm Pro & Microsoft Security Essentials

»Have To Get Rid Of ZAP or MSE! Which? Best Firewall or AntiV

»Symantec Anti Virus Corp-Work with Windows 7?

»GLB4AE6.tmp-sonicWall AntiSpam DesktopInstllation-86%????
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said by Phylop See Profile :

...kinda surprised nobody has mentioned this yet! :-P
Nobody mentioned that program because especially today the DSLR visitors have the sincere intention to remain calm and nice. :D
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When you install it you can decide which features you want to use.

»personalfirewall.comodo.com/

...kinda surprised nobody has mentioned this yet! :-P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305896 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:06:12 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305870 Cheese :
said by Anav See Profile :

Why would you run both MSE and AVAST?

I have tried many and the one that provides the long term least hassle and decent performance has been AVAST. I fiddle and fart with lots of them on my puter, but AVAST is what I put on the rest of the house computers. MSE sounds like it may be very good also but there is a maturing cycle it probably needs to go through first.
Just felt like trying it, plus it's on my notebook, not my main machine. I don't see any issues tbh. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305870 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:00:55 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305752 Kramer : That makes perfect sense. That was a dumb thought. Still, I thought it was impressive that Malwarebytes didn't pick up anything additional, which is a rarity on infected machines of this type. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305752 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:22:45 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305726 HardwareGeek : I will probably get bashed for saying this but try Norton Internet Security 2010.
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said by Kramer See Profile :

Then again Malwarebytes was doing the scan and you would think it would be first
Nah - Your first thought was correct. Your resident AV program (MSE) is jumping in and checking things before the requesting application (Malwarebytes) gets a chance to see the data. If you think about it - that's the only safe way for MSE to protect you.

If you were to load Malwarebytes' resident protection, it would probably depend on the order in which they hooked themselves into the OS.
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On my first system, I'm using G-Data and I think it was a mistake to buy it. If I try to play a video or audio such as one that is embedded in a web page the video/audio stutters. One of the reasons I thought I would get G-data was that it was ranked pretty high in reactive/proactive on that chart. But it comes at a price to interfere with the pc operation. When I remove G-Data security suite this stutter problem does not happen.

On my second PC I went CA security because there was no way that PC was going to happen with G-Data. But I see from the chat that software is 1/3 reactive/proactive of G-Data.

So I am stuck with both till my year is up. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305527 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:00:01 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305487 Anav :
said by Cheese See Profile :

said by siljaline See Profile :

You should *never* run more than one antivirus product that provides real time protection as they will conflict, causing performance issues, system instability, and may even cause protection to be compromised.
MSE should not be installed on a system that includes any other antivirus program.
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I am running Avast and MSE right now, no performance issue, instability....
Why would you run both MSE and AVAST?

I have tried many and the one that provides the long term least hassle and decent performance has been AVAST. I fiddle and fart with lots of them on my puter, but AVAST is what I put on the rest of the house computers. MSE sounds like it may be very good also but there is a maturing cycle it probably needs to go through first.
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I am stumped. Would love to be able to use MSE!
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I would LOVE for MSE to have worked.

But on a Intel Pentium machine that I have with 1.80 GHz processor, and 1.0 GB of RAM, and with all unnecessary Windows services disabled, MSE still slowed my machine horribly.

MS says that 1.0 GB of RAM is the minimum requirement. Some folks have posted that MSE has worked for them with less.

But---seriously---does ANY other AV (or suite) specify such a high minimum for RAM ?!

Can anyone think of any?

Microsoft does not know how to make ANYTHING that's not bloated.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305410 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:36:30 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305343 anon : Hello,

First, you may want to have a look at the following sites, as they have fantastic reviews of a multitude of anti-virus and other security software:

»www.virusbtn.com/index

»www.av-comparatives.org/index.php

Second: I have spent the last couple of months assessing various anti-virus packages on my own machine, after choosing several candidates based on the top performers in a number of the tests presented on those two sites.

After a couple of months, I had whittled the list down to (1) Nod32 v.4, (2) G-Data and (3) Avira AntiVir Premium.

(1) Nod32: I was a Nod32 user since version 1 and have always considered it a superior product. However, after 2.7 they have gone downhill, IMHO. It has become somewhat of a heavy resource user and very intrusive when it comes to internet-related activities. Is can cause various pauses in system operation and ultimately this becomes really tiring.

(2) G-data was quite good and is extremely fast in terms of scanning rates. However, I found it to be fairly intrusive as well and at times caught it using up to 348 MEGS of memory when it was performing background operations, which is unacceptable to me. Also, in comparison with Nod32 and Avira (~34 megs), the G-data program is a whopping 272 megs...for me, that sends up the red-flags as a sign of bloatware or inefficient software design.

(3) Avira AntiVir Premium: I have just finished my first week with Avira and I must say that I am pleasantly surprised. It seems to have a small footprint, and is very non-intrusive - so far. Scanning rates seem to be fairly quick. Setup was easy, but can be complex if you chose to tinker with the advanced options. Overall, my initial impression is that I have found a new anti-virus package with Avira. So, unless it begins to behave badly over the next couple of weeks, I am ditching trusty old Nod32 v 2.7 and moving over to Avira.

I hope this helps and, again, I really do encourage everybody to have a look at the two sites referenced above. They are a treasure-trove of information and data with regards to tens of anti-virus packages. You have to register with Virus Bulletin, but it is painless and well worth it in light of the data they provide.

JP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305343 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:14:49 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305325 Smokey Bear : I'm pleased to notice there are apparently still people with common sense, supporting my endless repeated yell there is no best antivirus. They even support my yell with good motivation, thanks folks! OTOH I am realistic and know that majority will ignore all well-meant/motivated advice.. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305325 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:58:23 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305260 GameGuy369 : Avira.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305260 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:11:35 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304776 computerman2 : Using MSE Here, And have to say this time around haven't noticed any slowdowns or anything, barely notice it's even there

(this PC was freshly reformatted about 1-2 weeks ago, so in Great shape--so maybe why it's working better now)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304776 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:20:35 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304557 runnoft :
said by MarkAW See Profile :

said by Smokey Bear See Profile :

said by amark See Profile :

Looking for a the "best" anti virus program that works with Windows 7. Tried Avast and do not like. Besides AVG what is the safest and best anti virus program out there? Thanks.
Again and again and again and again: the "best" don't exist. :uhh:
Totally agree no such thing as the best, it all depends on your taste and what you think is the best.
...and what you've tried.
...and what you've paid for (or are grateful to have for free).
...and what hasn't messed you up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304557 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:13:31 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304531 DownTheShore :
said by normat See Profile :

For some reason I really like MSE. Hassle free and seems to work. I kind of forgot it was there until it caught something.
This is an example of how you know you've finally got the right AV on your particular system: you're happy with the interface, it catches the baddies, and you don't even notice it on your computer. :)

- The interface should be easy for you to use.

- The AV shouldn't cause conflicts with your other software.

- The updates should be frequent and should be unnoticeable, that is, everything else shouldn't slow down when the AV is updating.

- It should be able to scan your particular email program.

- Scans should be able to handle compressed files.

- It shouldn't be resource intensive.

I don't know how it works with the free AV's, but with my NAV/NIS programs, the background scans only run when the computer is idle, so there is no impact when I am using the computer.
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Fast forward to tonight when I installed a hard drive in my computer from a computer that a kid trashed, that wouldn't boot up. I ran a Malwarebytes scan on the drive that incidentally was protected by McAfee when the machine was running. Malwarebytes detected nothing on the drive, but as it scanned, various file hits triggered MSE detections of four threats. This could have been because MSE was first to detect and kept Malwarebytes from detecting the threat. Then again Malwarebytes was doing the scan and you would think it would be first, but I'll leave that up to the experts to decide. I just have a strong feeling MB, would have never detected these even though it is a pretty effective product.

I'm not saying MSE is better or worse than other products out there, but my recent experiences have left me with the impression that its detection database is quite good. From what I can tell the product doesn't exert a heavy load on your system and it leaves you alone until there is something worth paying attention to. I feel as secure with it as I have felt with any other product I have used.

The picture above is the detections from the scan today that caught 4 threats as well as the scheduled scan on my own PC last weekend that picked up something undetected for years.

Edit: Missed the difficulties you are having installing MSE. Are you running any anti-spyware products that might be causing the problem? If not you need to check your startups to see if some previous product has not fully uninstalled. I wouldn't ignore this message.
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said by Smokey Bear See Profile :

said by amark See Profile :

Looking for a the "best" anti virus program that works with Windows 7. Tried Avast and do not like. Besides AVG what is the safest and best anti virus program out there? Thanks.
Again and again and again and again: the "best" don't exist. :uhh:
True dat. I never answer a post looking for the "best" anything. It's purely in the eye of the beholder, and all too often the beholder wants to argue.

;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304482 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:49:12 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304296 La Luna :
said by amark See Profile :

Weird stuff happening lost graphics on avatar-Script blocking stops.
I did try MSE and computer freezes after installed and after reboot 1-2 minutes after start up. Microsoft says ant ivirus running but it was not when installed Windows 7 and uninstalled Avast and still freezes. No answers form them.

So that is why asking about another program
The question should be not "what is the best AV" (there is no "best"), but why are you having issues with your machine and AV's?

I've used Avast for years on two machines and never experienced any of the problems you've described in your AV threads. So for me, Avast is the "best".
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said by amark See Profile :

Weird stuff happening lost graphics on avatar-Script blocking stops.
I did try MSE and computer freezes after installed and after reboot 1-2 minutes after start up. Microsoft says ant ivirus running but it was not when installed Windows 7 and uninstalled Avast and still freezes. No answers form them.

So that is why asking about another program
Avast
Microsoft Essentials
Avira
AVG

& check to see if your ISP provides a free AV
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said by sded See Profile :

I have Avast! 5.0.221 on 2 Vista computers with no scanning issues for POP3 or IMAP4. What client are you using? Have seen some reports of gmail issues with the Thunderbird 3 beta, but no problems with TB 2.0.23 that I am using. Also liked MSE, but prefer the Avast! 5 features plus controllability and vendor support. :)
I'm a fan of Avast. I'm not dissatisfied with 4.8 on Windows 7 by any means, but I like to see the new products before they're released. How do I get ahold of a beta of 5? The link from their forums (Google result) is dead.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303540 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:52:25 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303258 jadinolf :
said by SLD See Profile :

Time to change your avatar.
Not yet. I have 4.8 Pro and free on my other computers.
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said by siljaline See Profile :

You should *never* run more than one antivirus product that provides real time protection as they will conflict, causing performance issues, system instability, and may even cause protection to be compromised.
MSE should not be installed on a system that includes any other antivirus program.
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I am running Avast and MSE right now, no performance issue, instability....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303178 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:29:45 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303173 powerage66 : Avira AntiVir. Out of all of the ones I have used, this one is my favorite, and I think best. I use the free version, which has all of the features you need. Without the little icon in the taskbar, I would not even know it is running in the background. I don't worry about getting infected.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303173 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:29:13 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303169 Cheese :
said by Surfinusa See Profile :

MSE would be perfect if they made it a complete all in one product like Comodo Internet Security.

The Software Firewall makes all the difference to me.

If MSE added firewall I would switch from Comodo.

Of course MSE would have to be easy on resources like Comodo.
Why would they need to add a firewall when they have one built into the OS?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303169 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:28:29 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23303047 amark : Weird stuff happening lost graphics on avatar-Script blocking stops.
I did try MSE and computer freezes after installed and after reboot 1-2 minutes after start up. Microsoft says ant ivirus running but it was not when installed Windows 7 and uninstalled Avast and still freezes. No answers form them.

So that is why asking about another program
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said by StraitShoot See Profile :

Microsoft Security Essentials ...

Good, easy, and hassle free...

»www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
I also say try MSE......It couldn't hurt and its free.
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said by DataDoc See Profile :

said by jadinolf See Profile :

said by StraitShoot See Profile :

Microsoft Security Essentials ...

Good, easy, and hassle free...

»www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
Just installed it. Wish it updated automatically.
It does, check the options and set the time of day to scan and have it update just before it scans.

I'm not at a pc with it, or I'd be more precise.
No, that's fine DataDoc.

Thanks

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In all the topics you've started about AV's, you've gotten a cross-section of the top AV's that people here use. You've just got to work your way through them and find what you like. It's a pain in the butt to do, especially if the software doesn't remove cleanly the first time, and it takes time, but once you find one that works for you, you're golden. :D
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said by jadinolf See Profile :

said by StraitShoot See Profile :

Microsoft Security Essentials ...

Good, easy, and hassle free...

»www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
Just installed it. Wish it updated automatically.
It does, check the options and set the time of day to scan and have it update just before it scans.

I'm not at a pc with it, or I'd be more precise.
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said by sded See Profile :

Have you tried Avast! 5? About to come out of beta, so already pretty mature, with quite a different look and feel than the 4.8 version.
Ed, I have V5 beta on two computers and no matter what I do i cannot send email.
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said by StraitShoot See Profile :

Microsoft Security Essentials ...

Good, easy, and hassle free...

»www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
Just installed it. Wish it updated automatically.
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said by Smokey Bear See Profile :

said by amark See Profile :

Looking for a the "best" anti virus program that works with Windows 7. Tried Avast and do not like. Besides AVG what is the safest and best anti virus program out there? Thanks.
Again and again and again and again: the "best" don't exist. :uhh:
Totally agree no such thing as the best, it all depends on your taste and what you think is the best.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23302417 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:02:50 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23302367 Smokey Bear :
said by amark See Profile :

Looking for a the "best" anti virus program that works with Windows 7. Tried Avast and do not like. Besides AVG what is the safest and best anti virus program out there? Thanks.
Again and again and again and again: the "best" don't exist. :uhh:
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FIGHT THE POWER]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23302341 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:51:32 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23302326 siljaline :
You should *never* run more than one antivirus product that provides real time protection as they will conflict, causing performance issues, system instability, and may even cause protection to be compromised.
MSE should not be installed on a system that includes any other antivirus program.
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The gui or the fact that the options and menu items are hard to find at first....one does get used to it, not the gui though....blah! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23302251 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:36:31 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23301328 sded : Have you tried Avast! 5? About to come out of beta, so already pretty mature, with quite a different look and feel than the 4.8 version.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23301328 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:05:34 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23301314 Surfinusa : MSE would be perfect if they made it a complete all in one product like Comodo Internet Security.

The Software Firewall makes all the difference to me.

If MSE added firewall I would switch from Comodo.

Of course MSE would have to be easy on resources like Comodo.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23301314 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:03:28 EDT Re: Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23300701 StraitShoot : Microsoft Security Essentials ...

Good, easy, and hassle free...

»www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23300701 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:04:41 EDT Anti Virus Program? Tried Avast-Looking For Better Program http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23300669 amark : Looking for a the "best" anti virus program that works with Windows 7. Tried Avast and do not like. Besides AVG what is the safest and best anti virus program out there? Thanks.
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