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Kayrac
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lug nuts loose, tire fell off

So my friend just had his tire fall off

it was just the tire, 1 of the 'studs'(dunno the real term) also broke off, which means 4 lug nuts just loosened up

the shop said the same thing, the 4 lug nuts became loose and the stress eventually broke that last one

is this even possible from wear and tear?, my friend hasn't had any work done, and tires haven't been removed at all......he said the noise started monday, and tire fell off on thursday

now, the other part, he just recently broke up with his girlfriend, she's.....well....crazy, were fairly sure thats a good possibility, but figured i'd ask if the above was possible

PrntRhd

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Your friend was stupid to not stop and find out what the noise was on Monday then continue driving until Thursday.
Ex girlfriends are more likely to attempt to run you over than loosen lug nuts.


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said by PrntRhd See Profile :

Your friend was stupid to not stop and find out what the noise was on Monday then continue driving until Thursday.
Ex girlfriends are more likely to attempt to run you over than loosen lug nuts.
Actually a friends ex did just that. So I wouldn't put it past an ex.


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said by Kayrac See Profile :

he said the noise started monday, and tire fell off on thursday
4 days without out making any effort to figure out what was wrong? I'd say an accident waiting to happen. I've had lug nuts get loose, and it's pretty darn obvious something isn't right that needs to be checked right now.

matt5

join:2001-10-06
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reply to Kayrac
He's had no work done, is this thing new?

Their is no "wear and tear" that causes the studs to break, and the wheel fall off, lug nuts do not magically get loose.

I almost find it hard to believe he could not FEEL something wrong, let alone just hear, granted I've never driven with the wheel ready to fall off, I cant believe that vehicle drove steady.


Kayrac
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reply to Kayrac
well he's not a car guy, so looking at his car is usually something he puts to the side :P

anyways thanks, i implied the whole ex thing to him, but now i may push it on him a little more

thanks guys

EDIT: matt it's a older car, but hasn't had anything done to it in almost a year, minus oil changes, but tires shouldn't be removed for that


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reply to Kayrac
Looks like someone forgot to tighten his lugs..

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4m41viy4I

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reply to Kayrac
said by Kayrac See Profile :

well he's not a car guy, so looking at his car is usually something he puts to the side :P

EDIT: matt it's a older car, but hasn't had anything done to it in almost a year, minus oil changes, but tires shouldn't be removed for that
And that is why so many preventable deaths and accidents happen. Anyone can get into a car and drive and they don't bother to check the fraken bulbs, or tire pressures or noises that get worse over 4 days and include vibrations telling you something is serious are just ignored because they drive a car literally until the wheels fall off.

/rant

That type of owner should be given a small plane to commute to the desert with as you know they won't do any pre-flight inspections or stick the tanks for fuel levels and then expect to pull over when there is a problem. One dauntingly huge drawback to that plan is that you can't readily pull over at 15,000 feet.
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But, but according to the OP, the TIRE came off, not the WHEEL!!!







I wasn't aware that lug nuts held tires to the rim!



Stupid me!!!


Doctor Olds
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Yes Indeed!

A Wheel separation event is vastly different from a Tire separation event.

Laypersons use Tire and Wheel interchangeably.

It is like hearing "My car won't start".

Lets try again. Your car starter spins over the engine fine but the engine won't start OR the starter does nothing, not even a click when you tun the key? Two vastly different problems.
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reply to Kayrac
I had a flat one day next to the psychiatric hospital. After pulling the wheel, a wind came up, and blew all 4 lug nuts down a catch basin. A kindly gent inside the fence wandered over, and wondered what was wrong. I told him my plight, and asked if he would call triple A for me.

He replied, "Why don't you just take one lug off each of the other wheels to get you home?"

"Great idea!" I said. "With a mind like yours, why would you be on the inside looking out?"

"I may be insane, but I'm not stupid," he said.


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said by Grumpy See Profile :

"I may be insane, but I'm not stupid," he said.
I resemble that remark!



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said by Grumpy See Profile :

I had a flat one day next to the psychiatric hospital. After pulling the wheel, a wind came up, and blew all 4 lug nuts down a catch basin. A kindly gent inside the fence wandered over, and wondered what was wrong. I told him my plight, and asked if he would call triple A for me.

He replied, "Why don't you just take one lug off each of the other wheels to get you home?"

"Great idea!" I said. "With a mind like yours, why would you be on the inside looking out?"

"I may be insane, but I'm not stupid," he said.
I remember you. Never got the chance to tell you what a nice car you had. Glad to hear all these years later you made it home safe. I wondered every day if you made it home safely..I wondered so much they finally got around to releasing me so I could search for you..Really happy you posted this...What a small world.

Now if I could only find that one-armed man who killed Dr. Richard Kimbel's wife.


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said by matt5 See Profile :

There is no "wear and tear" that causes the studs to break, and the wheel fall off, lug nuts do not magically get loose.
I know for a FACT they can and do, the issue in this case is waiting four days to check a problem that had to be obvious, with handling and sounds.
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reply to Kayrac
Correctly installed wheel nuts with the correct taper for the wheels fitted will not come loose.

Tapered or radius seat type


Mag type


From:
»www.mcgard.com/Home/About/Custom···nRemoval
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LittlePiggie
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said by 3SGTE See Profile :

Correctly installed wheel nuts with the correct taper for the wheels fitted
will
should not
come loose.
[att=1]
[att=2]

From:
»www.mcgard.com/Home/About/Custom···nRemoval
But, they can and sometimes do.
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PrntRhd

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said by LittlePiggie See Profile :

said by 3SGTE See Profile :

Correctly installed wheel nuts with the correct taper for the wheels fitted
will
should not
come loose.
[att=1]
[att=2]

From:
»www.mcgard.com/Home/About/Custom···nRemoval
But, they can and sometimes do.
If you torque them to the proper spec, they don't come loose on their own.


LittlePiggie
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said by PrntRhd See Profile :

said by LittlePiggie See Profile :

said by 3SGTE See Profile :

Correctly installed wheel nuts with the correct taper for the wheels fitted
will
should not
come loose.
[att=1]
[att=2]

From:
»www.mcgard.com/Home/About/Custom···nRemoval
But, they can and sometimes do.
If you torque them to the proper spec, they don't come loose on their own.
OK! If you say so!
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said by LittlePiggie See Profile :

But, they can and sometimes do.
No, mechanical torque does not suddenly release magically all on its own. It is *only* loose lug nuts that ever become further loose then fall off. If as you suggest an item under proper torque can loose its torque, then vehicle bodies would come off of their frames, doors would fall off of their hinges, and rear axles would come loose from their four links (2 upper and 2 lower arms for coil spring suspension) and drop the rear of the vehicle on the wheels jamming them into the wheel wells.
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reply to Kayrac
LittlePiggie,
If you use the proper fasteners and torque them to spec with a torque wrench they stay tight.
I have been driving 40+ years and have never had a lug nut come loose on any of my vehicles.

I do have acquaintances who had wheels come off but that was immediately after being worked on by repair/tire shops. I do re-torque mine immediately when I get home after anyone works on mine.
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