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<description><![CDATA[howie posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1290198" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1290198');">elios</a>:</small><br><br>you can do an up grade but its ticky<br>wish people would use the search more i posted this trick FIVE TIMES NOW <br><br>install 7 Home WITH OUT A KEY<br>open any time upgrade<br>INPUT YOUR 7 Pro key<br>Reboot<br>you just did an inplace upgrade from Vista Home to 7 Pro<br>enjoy<br> </div>Nice trick! Thanks! :-)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[elios posted : you can do an up grade but its ticky<br>wish people would use the search more i posted this trick FIVE TIMES NOW <br><br>install 7 Home WITH OUT A KEY<br>open any time upgrade<br>INPUT YOUR 7 Pro key<br>Reboot<br>you just did an inplace upgrade from Vista Home to 7 Pro<br>enjoy]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:38:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : Not to beat a dead horse, but I agree. The problem is compounded by the fact that it is explained that XP needs a clean install, but does not mention that some versions of Vista also do. This could be a potential budget buster for some folks. Of course they may be more open to a clean install than I am presently. In the past that's all I would consider.:)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : I think we may be saying the same thing - <br>Step 1 Buy machine with OEM OS.<br>Step 2 Upgrade OEM OS with full version, not upgrade version of OS.<br>Step 3. Take machine with upgraded OEM OS out of service.<br>Step 4. Install full version previously used to perform upgrade om OEM in new machine. Notify microsoft, & take original OEM machine out of service.<br><br>Would that work, as compared to (1) installing full version on machine "A" as original operating, system and then (2) uninstalling from removed from service machine "A", with a subsequent install on new Machine "B". The full version would never exist on more than one machine at a time. I'm familiar with the call to Microsoft, as I have done it in the past. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:05:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[howie posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/634425" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=634425');">bkjohnson</a>:</small><br><br>I'm neither whining nor asking for a free lunch. I paid for the software. I was just expressing my opinion that the labeling on the box is misleading or inadequate. Neither am I a novice who has not built computers, installed software, etc - I've been doing it for years with a pretty good success rate.  Have you read one of the boxes, or did you do all of your research elsewhere? I believe that you should be able to read the box and make a choice without having to do a lot of online research. I'm lucky - I was going to buy several upgrades anyway,and as it happens, I have a Vista Business machine that I can use the pro version on. I bought an ultimate upgrade at Office Max (Good sale price, BTW) and am installing it now. <br> </div>Glad you got this worked out... I really think MS should have listed the in-place and fresh install options on the packaging. Naturally, you can "upgrade" any XP or Vista machine by doing a "custom" install, but many users would rather do an in-place upgrade and Microsoft certainly doesn't make this clear on the retail upgrade packaging.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:59:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[digitalfutur posted : No an OEM Windows installation is locked to the PC in was installed on.  Its key will only work if the Win OS is installed on that same PC.  The key will not work on a retail version of Windows.<br><br>You can transfer a retail version from one PC to another by reinstalling (including a clean install on a former OEM box), but you'll have to call Microsoft and go through the automated activation process, you won't be able to activate the 2nd installation online.  That process involves providing a long auto-generated computer product ID to the automated voice, then inputting another long set of numbers to activate the 2nd installation.<br><br>Of course, once you activate the 2nd time, the original activation is voided on the 1st PC.  If you try to activate a 3rd time with the same non-OEM product key (i.e. can't activate online), you'll likely have to explain the circumstances to an MS rep rather than going through the automated process on the phone.<br><small>--<br>All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke.  "Walk the Talk".</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:46:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : I'm neither whining nor asking for a free lunch. I paid for the software. I was just expressing my opinion that the labeling on the box is misleading or inadequate. Neither am I a novice who has not built computers, installed software, etc - I've been doing it for years with a pretty good success rate.  Have you read one of the boxes, or did you do all of your research elsewhere? I believe that you should be able to read the box and make a choice without having to do a lot of online research. I'm lucky - I was going to buy several upgrades anyway,and as it happens, I have a Vista Business machine that I can use the pro version on. I bought an ultimate upgrade at Office Max (Good sale price, BTW) and am installing it now. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:44:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : I seem to remember that previous windows OS full versions (as opposed to OEM versions) could be legally be moved from machine to machine, provided that proper activation/deactivation was done. I am wondering if a full version could be used to update an OEM machine and then, later legally be used on a new build provided that the OEM machine was decommissioned, all with Microsoft's approval, of course.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:34:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[howie posted : Who said this information wasn't available before 7 was released? What's the free lunch you're referring to? All that's been said is that the upgrade options should be listed on the retail product itself...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:18:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I beg to differ. This information have been available even before Windows 7 was released.You don't heve to be a scientist to figure this out. Seems to me people are just out to get free a free lunch. Whine whine whine and more whining.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:02:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[howie posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/634425" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=634425');">bkjohnson</a>:</small><br><br>Or at least on a poster in the store! Yes, I should have researched further. On the other hand, the upgrade adviser says "you're good to go" (but not you need to check versions further), the box says XP needs a clean install, but Vista's OK, I'm in the store, away from a computer to do a recheck........ I notice that a standalone copy of Ultimate is about $20 more than an upgrade copy. I wonder if it can be installed as an upgrade.<br> </div>Your Vista Home Premium can be "in-place" upgraded with either Windows 7 Ultimate version (upgrade or full). I don't know why you'd need the full version.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:56:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : Or at least on a poster in the store! Yes, I should have researched further. On the other hand, the upgrade adviser says "you're good to go" (but not you need to check versions further), the box says XP needs a clean install, but Vista's OK, I'm in the store, away from a computer to do a recheck........ I notice that a standalone copy of Ultimate is about $20 more than an upgrade copy. I wonder if it can be installed as an upgrade.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:42:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[howie posted : Yes, I understand... That "matrix" <i>should</i> be on the back cover of <i>every</i> upgrade package.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:32:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[MSeng posted : I meant do the research first...the upgrade advisor may have said you could upgrade your Vista Home Premium but its not intended to tell you what version(s) you can upgrade to.<br><br>Howie's chart explains it pretty well. So does this - &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=E170EBA1-5BAB-401F-BBF5-00F0EE7FE0FB&displaylang=en" >www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta&middot;&middot;&middot;ylang=en</A><br><small>--<br>If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:31:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : That is what should be on the box! I'll get over it, but this sort of thing has driven most of my family to Mac.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : I did. As mentioned, the upgrade adviser I ran sometime back did not mention this. And, the fact remains, the box version that I bought is misleading, or at best unclear. It was very specific about XP Pro needing a clean install, but intimated that all versions of Vista were OK. If you get a chance, look at a retail package and see what you think.  I would have bought the ultimate version had I known this.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[howie posted : Yeah, the only "in-place" upgrade option from Vista to Windows 7 Professional requires Vista Business to be installed. Any other scenario requires a "custom" or "fresh" install. The above matrix has been out for a while and has been posted here many times. Sorry you missed it!  :huh:<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/23306830?c=1487367&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMzMwNjc4Ny54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="93529 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=790 SRC="/r0/download/1487367~3dafe252cf3a3d5ae05559b7eb64392e/windows_7_upgrade_matrix.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[auggy posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/634425" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=634425');">bkjohnson</a>:</small><br><br> when I went to install, it informed me that my Vista home premium is only eligible for a clean install. <br> </div>What is the exact message you are getting?<br><br>Edit:<br><br>See  howie <A HREF="/useremail/u/796542"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>'s post below.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[MSeng posted : Probably would have made sense to look into the upgrade paths available for your version <i>before</i> you purchased something.  ;)<br><small>--<br>If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bkjohnson posted : I just bought a copy of Windows 7 Pro, expecting to be able to use the upgrade option with Vista, as I have several programs that I don't want to reinstall from "scratch" right now. On the Windows 7 box, it warns that XP pro requires a clean install, and also says that "this version is designed as upgrade for WINDOWS VISTA". However, when I went to install, it informed me that my Vista home premium is only eligible for a clean install. I ran the upgrade adviser several months ago, and don't recall seeing anything to that effect. ]]></description>
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