[Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) in Spam, Scam and Phishbusters http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23307421 en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:37:48 EDT Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:37:48 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23766862 Doctor Olds : Do you realize how lucky you are? You called in time to get your money back because the scammer had not gotten to Western Union yet to pick up your payment. You are extremely lucky as most lose their money and never get it back. You are going to get some funny emails now from the scam artist.

I'm curious why you didn't check with eBay Motors to find out and more importantly verify what you were told about eBay's VPP (Vehicle Protection Program) was factual or not? Remember in the future to "Trust, but Verify" what you are being told when dealing in email communications and never assume.
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said by SA :

I got scammed by trying to buy a vehicle from Yahoo autos.

So, I did not lose my money, but they have my name and address.
Please be aware when you get these type of requests for Western Union money transfers / deposits.
Did you send any money or not? I am confused as in the beginning of your post you say that you were scammed and yet at the end you say that you did not lose your money, so that means that you didn't get scammed after all to me.
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What’s the point of owning a supercar if you can’t scare yourself stupid from time to time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23761416 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:34:24 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23760296 anon : I got scammed by trying to buy a vehicle from Yahoo autos. I used the VIN number to track all previous transactions and found that the vehicle was posted on ebay, and not sold. But the price they wanted was $6000 less than the highest bidder on ebay, which made me suspicious.
Everything seemed very legit though, so I carried on with the e-mails. In the mean time, I contacted ebay and got the phone number for the owner to find out if he sold the vehicle. I also contacted the Cops to find out who the vehicle title belongs to, and nothing added up. So, I did not lose my money, but they have my name and address.
Please be aware when you get these type of requests for Western Union money transfers / deposits.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23760296 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:53:31 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23716749 Doctor Olds : You really should file a complaint here: »www.ic3.gov/

Did they advertise using Craig's List?

Did they give you a link to see pictures of the car and did they supply the VIN number? You can sometimes find the original eBay Auction where they stole the images from if it hasn't been more than 90 days past the date that the real vehicle sold.

As far as ID Theft, read here:

»www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/idtheft/

Click on the title "IF YOUR INFORMATION HAS BEEN COMPROMISED, BUT NOT YET MISUSED" to read more.

They can do just about anything with the right info. Even to creating fake documents with their picture using your info so they can have fake IDs to use in order to pick up other's scammed funds at Money Gram/Western Union.
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What’s the point of owning a supercar if you can’t scare yourself stupid from time to time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23716749 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:01:15 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23716502 kmprebel : I used my name, but the address that I used was at my place of work. I am so thankful that I did not send the money. These guys were so smooth. I even talked to them on the phone about the car, and They said I could come pick it up. They picked a very unrealistic timeframe for me to arrange a pickup though. I knew the deal was too good to be true. If they did anything with my information do you think that it could be reversed or I would be out a great deal of money?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23716502 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:19:22 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23715535 Doctor Olds :
said by kmprebel See Profile :

I have found myself in this same situation, I am sooo thankful that I found these posts. I was about to send my money first thing tomorrow....
Glad that this web site forum and these posts saved you from being scammed plus kept you from losing your money.
said by kmprebel See Profile :

I gave my shipping address and my name and phone number but no money... Do you think I have anything to worry about if I did not wire them the money yet?
Yes, they can use your name, number and address for future Identity Theft if they get tired of the Craig's List Auto Ads Scam or they can sell your info to other scammers that specialize in Identity Theft.
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What’s the point of owning a supercar if you can’t scare yourself stupid from time to time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23715535 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:20:34 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23715431 kmprebel : I have found myself in this same situation, I am sooo thankful that I found these posts. I was about to send my money first thing tomorrow.... I gave my shipping address and my name and phone number but no money... Do you think I have anything to worry about if I did not wire them the money yet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23715431 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:25:30 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23598708 autosec : check out this informative site about who does these scams:

»autosec4u.de/seite8-e.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23598708 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:27:15 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23597820 Doctor Olds :
said by Shelby :

The Vehicle Protection Program is through paypal and this person has been trying to scam people and convincing them to send the money to western union...
»scammerdatabase.wordpress.com/20···ment-156
No, the VPP (Vehicle Protection Program) is through eBay Motors on eligible purchases of over $100.00 at auction, buy it now or best offer sales of vehicles listed on »www.motors.ebay.com/
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What’s the point of owning a supercar if you can’t scare yourself stupid from time to time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23597820 Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:23:35 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23596392 anon : Check out this site.. I was almost scammed in a situation just like yours. The Vehicle Protection Program is through paypal and this person has been trying to scam people and convincing them to send the money to western union...
»scammerdatabase.wordpress.com/20···ment-156]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23596392 Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:54:21 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23560868 Doctor Olds :
said by missdaisyx See Profile :

I'm curious this also happened to me, did you ever get your money back? :l
The money is long gone for both of you. You'd have to supply the info requested by MGD See Profile in order to start to improve your chances for any future recovery (partial or full). Otherwise it is a write off to a hard lesson learned. Don't believe every single word in an email and check everything that you are being told as that alone would have told you the VPP emails were fakes, the terms were falsified/don't match what eBay Motors shows for the actual terms and that there was no eBay Motors page to legitimately bid on/buy it now/make offer to purchase the prospective vehicle.
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What’s the point of owning a supercar if you can’t scare yourself stupid from time to time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23560868 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:50:37 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23560607 missdaisyx : I'm curious this also happened to me, did you ever get your money back? :l]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23560607 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:57:55 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23315947 MGD : You may be able to get more specific advice, if you post the information that I requested above, wbsites that you were given, the Western Union instructions, etc, etc.

In addition, that information will also alert other victims who may be in the process of being duped also.

MGD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23315947 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:52:11 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23315653 Jdiva : Yes I did a brief research, but obviously not enough, bc I'm just now finding about all of this. Sadly, it took them getting my money b4 I went deep into the research.
And they said they were gonna get back to me within 12-24 hours after receiving the money (to give me a tracking #), but that never happened. Once they got the money, I faxed them the receipt and they emailed me saying that they got it and then they will get back to me soon, but like I said I never heard from them since then. It's been exactly a week now :-(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23315653 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:02:34 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23315450 music man :
"Eventually they got back to me, saying that they did recieve the payment and that they'll email me soon (12-24 hours) with a tracking number and the arrival date of my cargo".


Does this mean that you were directed to an " independent" escrow service? How were you to use the tracking number? I ask as there are lots of fake escrow websites being created by Romanian criminals to support this type of fraud.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23315450 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:27:04 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308863 Doctor Olds : I'm curious, did you read the terms of the eBay VPP located at the eBay Motors web site? If not why not? How did you determine that you were eligible?

eBay Motors > Buy > Vehicle Purchase Protection
»pages.ebay.com/ebaymotors/buy/pu···tection/
quote:
Eligibility Requirements

Participation in the VPP program is subject to the following eligibility requirements:

You have successfully completed the purchase of a vehicle* priced at more than $100 from one of the following categories on the eBay Site:

Car and Truck
Motorcycle
Go Kart, Scooter, and Moped
ATV
Personal Water Craft
Snowmobile
Boat
Bus
Commercial Truck
RV or Camper
Race Car (not street legal)
Trailer (non-RV)
Dune Buggy / Sand Rail

Note:
* You will be deemed to have successfully completed the purchase if you receive confirmation in your "My eBay" that you have successfully won, or purchased, an item through an auction, Buy It Now, or Best Offer.


Did you check for warnings or articles about scammers and their tricks?

Craigslist Scams and Fraudulent Use of Vehicle Purchase Protection
»forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Ebay-M···10078002
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All members should read this important warning.
If you shop on websites other than eBay, you should exercise caution if someone emails you claiming to be an eBay representative!

We are seeing an increase in reports of fake eBay Motors transactions that originate automotive websites other than eBay, such as Craigslist.

Fraudsters are sending online shoppers fake email messages claiming to be from the eBay Trust and Safety Department, the eBay Motors Finance Center, an eBay Escrow Agent, or from the eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection Program. These emails are all fake and often contain links to spoof websites that contain pages that look like authentic eBay Motors web pages, but are not. The fake eBay sites might even ask you for personal information and then send you fake eBay “Personalized Payment” instructions.

Don’t be fooled! If you are shopping on Craigslist or another website that offers classified ads, you should follow the community warnings (such as these from Craigslist) and meet and pay the seller in person. And if you exchange emails with someone who claims to be an “agent” of eBay you should be very cautious. Fraudsters often send spoof emails that appear to be from eBay (or one of our partners), but are not.

Never pay with MoneyGram or Western Union. Western Union and MoneyGram are prohibited as a payment method on eBay Motors. eBay will never recommend that you use either to pay for a vehicle.

It is important to remember, eBay does not “validate” listings, provide escrow services, or make payment arrangements on behalf of sellers. To verify that an email claiming to be from eBay is legitimate you should sign in to your My eBay account and check your In Box. If the email is legitimate you will find a copy in your My eBay In Box. If you don’t find the same message in your In Box, it is fake.

If you have more questions about spoof emails and "phishing" fraud, or how to report suspicious listings or emails, please visit our Security Center. Also, at the top right corner of the eBay home page is a link to Live Help, where you can start a live chat session with an eBay customer service representative who can help you verify whether a listing is authentic.

If you feel you were defrauded when you were shopping on the Craigslist site you may use this link to contact Craigslist.


If the VPP is mentioned in an ad off of eBay or in an email response to you that you replied to that was not at eBay and there is no link provided to the eBay Motors web site that is 100% telling you that every single one of those are scams and the vehicles do not exist at that price or with free shipping. People don't ship cars at their expense with 3 or 5 or 7 day inspection periods, only the scammers use that as a selling trick to get your money away from you.

Did you tell Western Union what the reason was that the payment was being transferred for? Did they tell you money sent with them is not refundable or held in a escrow if you later change your mind? Did they warn you that scammers use their service to sell cars that do not show up at »www.motors.ebay.com web pages and that they are not part of eBay plus they have nothing to do with eBay's VPP?

Were any of these emails from eBay.com and did they direct you to only make the purchase at »www.motors.ebay.com? Did any of the emails also show up in your inbox at your eBay.com member's page like they are supposed to do also? If no, then that means they are 100% fake.

What did the scammers say or do that made you believe eBay would cover a transaction that you didn't initiate through/didn't buy through a eBay web page/auction page?

Sorry to hear that you were taken advantage of and have lost your money.

HTH
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What’s the point of owning a supercar if you can’t scare yourself stupid from time to time?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23308863 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:49:21 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307612 Jdiva : Ok...thank u, I sent a report to ic3. I hope this works out. Thx again 4ur help]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307612 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:16:48 EDT Re: [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307482 MGD : You can contact Western Union and obtain the details on who and where the money was picked up at. You should also notify Western Union that it was a fraud. However, there is zero chance that you can recover the money.

It is difficult to even give you any suggestions on other options to file complaints, without any specific details on the transaction.

Where did you find the car listed, Craigslist ?

Post the email address of the criminals that you were corresponding with.

Post any website links that they gave you.

Post a copy of the Western Union instructions, showing the name and address of who and where to send the money to.

Redact your info name, email address, etc.

File a complaint at »www.ic3.gov

Western Union or MoneyGram should NEVER EVER be used for a purchase transaction.

Never purchase vehicles that you cannot go look at.

MGD]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307482 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:42:06 EDT [Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP) http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307421 Jdiva : Hello,
I'm a college student who's been looking for a used car to buy. A lot of the ones I came across mentioned the Ebay Vehicle Protectio Program. So when I finally found one that I was really interested in, I didn't question the whole Ebay thing because I've been hearing it from other sellers. As eager as I am to get a car, I of course decided to go with this one specific buyer, I sent him my info so that he can let the supposedly "Ebay Agent" know that I'm his selected buyer. For a few days, all three parties (myself, the seller, ad the Motor Vpp) have been emailing each other daily, without missing a beat. I asked a lot of questions to make sure this was ligit, and finally on mon.nov 2nd, I sent out the payment through Western Union, faxed them the receipt and everything I was told to do.

Eventually they got back to me, saying that they did recieve the payment and that they'll email me soon (12-24 hours) with a tracking number and the arrival date of my cargo. It is now sat.nov.7th and still no word from either party (seller or agent). I have sent them about 3-4 emails asking about the progress of the process, and they have yet to respond to me about my concern. It looked so real, because the seller sent me the carfax and everything as far as the vehicle's records. I really don't know what else to do. I thought I was being careful enough by consulting my mother for every bit of advice before I made my final decision, but obviously I thought wrong. I need to find a way to get my money back asap.

Any suggestions...Anyone?!
Thank you,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23307421 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:25:58 EDT