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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1683909"><b>An_Onymous</b></A> : They are still going get low balled on a fire sale.<br><br>>&#147;if the spectrum is to be forfeited and returned to industry Canada&#133; Industry Canada will then re-auction the returned spectrum&#133;. Bell Canada is prepared buy up to 50% of it for up to 50% of the price paid by Globalive&#148;<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/11/16/bell-and-rogers-are-ready-to-pounce-on-globalives-spectrum/" >www.thetelecomblog.com/2009/11/1&middot;&middot;&middot;pectrum/</A><br><br>So Bell thinks it is only worth 50% of what GlobalLive! has bidded for.  Hardly a bargain for GlobalLive!  Also I don't think Industry Canada would buy back at full price.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/929913"><b>Omr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  An_Onymous <A HREF="/useremail/u/1683909"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>>spectrum ownership in itself is not failure. Heck they bought it at a discount, so if they fold and sell the spectrum they can easily recoup most of the investments made.<br><br>They won the bid.  i.e. They paid a HIGHER price than the rest of the crowd would willing to pay for.  Do you think the other operators would not low ball GlobalLive! in a fire sale?  Bell already said they are going to pay $0.50 on the dollar for that.<br><br>So you statement is questionable.<br> </div>It was reserved bidding, hence it was open to new comers not incumbents. If it was open to incumbents they would have been outbid and hence pay higher fees to win said spectrum.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://wirelessnorth.ca/canadas-2008-spectrum-auction/" >wirelessnorth.ca/canadas-2008-sp&middot;&middot;&middot;auction/</A><br><br>So yes they paid higher amongst the new comers whom all had lower budgets to begin with, but not higher based on true open competition.<br><br>Now is my statement still questionable, or was that sufficient background to catch you up on things.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1665353"><b>netwerk007</b></A> : I'd love to see Teksavvy become a voip supplier like Link2Voip.com. I use them for all my long distance services through the net. That is the future of landline telephony. <br><br><A HREF="https://www.link2voip.com/index.php?coupon=netwerk">www.link2voip.com]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1652067"><b>MaynardKrebs</b></A> : Maybe RIM's Jim Balsillie would be better off buying the spectrum from Globealive than chasing after a hockey team. Bell, Rogers, & Telus would still buy Blackberries from RIM even if a guy like Balsillie operated his own network. <br><br>And maybe if Bell et. al boycotted RIM products because of a RIM-owned/related network, it would work out even better for RIM with more revenue for them.<br><br>It wouldn't be like businesses and others using Berries would give them up easily just because Rogers et. al. decided not to carry them any longer.<br><br>I wonder if ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1665353"><b>netwerk007</b></A> : The minute a ISP goes public on the stock market is the day they will screw the customer base.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1683909"><b>An_Onymous</b></A> : >spectrum ownership in itself is not failure. Heck they bought it at a discount, so if they fold and sell the spectrum they can easily recoup most of the investments made.<br><br>They won the bid.  i.e. They paid a HIGHER price than the rest of the crowd would willing to pay for.  Do you think the other operators would not low ball GlobalLive! in a fire sale?  Bell already said they are going to pay $0.50 on the dollar for that.<br><br>So you statement is questionable.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1461319"><b>emoci</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  MaynardKrebs <A HREF="/useremail/u/1652067"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>So maybe Globealive offers customers a chance to become common shareholders in return for some discounts on their plans?<br><br>For argument's sake let's say that the current book value per common share is $10 each (call these the Class A common shares - this is what the current owners have).<br><br>When a customer signs up for Wind they are given an option to buy Class B common shares with the following T&C's....<br><br>$100 share plan - 10 shares of stock, automatic 2% discount on the monthly plan bill.<br><br>$200 share plan - 22 shares of stock, automatic 4% discount on the month plan<br><br>$500 share plan - 55 shares of stock (gets around the rules governing discounting of shares - any more than this and you run into trouble), 8% discount on the monthly bill.<br><br>Common to all Share Plans........<br><br>Corporate charter restriction on share ownership - Class B shares can only be owned by individuals - not corporations, holding companies, mutual funds, income trusts, or any other form of non-individual ownership. Class B shares can only be owned by Canadians residents.<br><br>All share plans give customer the right to 'top up' the number of shares purchased to 100 shares at the same discount rate appropriate to their plan.<br><br>All service Discounts last for 3 years and apply even if customer alters the original plan they signed up on (ie. downgrades service plan, adds phones, etc...).<br><br>If the stock pays a dividend, customer can opt for cash or customer shares are eligible for DRIP (dividend reinvestment plan) at 95% of the then current book value for 3 years. Class B shares are pari passu in all other respects with Class A shares (ie. voting rights, special dividends, etc....).<br><br>Get 1 million customers opting in and you've raised close to $100MM and diversified the ownership across a wide swath of Canadians. Admittedly $100MM is not a lot money-wise, but a million Canadian equity owners is nothing to sneer at. I'd take a flyer on share ownership with a deal like this.<br> </div>That's great...but how can you offer customers anything like that...when they won't let you sell it...<br><br>They need the ownership setup to even offer anything...<br><br>What bothers me is that it seems Telcos/CRTC is running this on a technicality...bcs if there was a true ownership discrepancy they wouldn't be allowed in the spectrum game at all...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1652067"><b>MaynardKrebs</b></A> : <br>So maybe Globealive offers customers a chance to become common shareholders in return for some discounts on their plans?<br><br>For argument's sake let's say that the current book value per common share is $10 each (call these the Class A common shares - this is what the current owners have).<br><br>When a customer signs up for Wind they are given an option to buy Class B common shares with the following T&C's....<br><br>$100 share plan - 10 shares of stock, automatic 2% discount on the monthly plan bill.<br><br>$200 share plan - 22 shares of stock, automatic 4% discount on the month plan<br><br>$500 share plan - 55 shares of stock (gets around the rules governing discounting of shares - any more than this and you run into trouble), 8% discount on the monthly bill.<br><br>Common to all Share Plans........<br><br>Corporate charter restriction on share ownership - Class B shares can only be owned by individuals - not corporations, holding companies, mutual funds, income trusts, or any other form of non-individual ownership. Class B shares can only be owned by Canadians residents.<br><br>All share plans give customer the right to 'top up' the number of shares purchased to 100 shares at the same discount rate appropriate to their plan.<br><br>All service Discounts last for 3 years and apply even if customer alters the original plan they signed up on (ie. downgrades service plan, adds phones, etc...).<br><br>If the stock pays a dividend, customer can opt for cash or customer shares are eligible for DRIP (dividend reinvestment plan) at 95% of the then current book value for 3 years. Class B shares are pari passu in all other respects with Class A shares (ie. voting rights, special dividends, etc....).<br><br>Get 1 million customers opting in and you've raised close to $100MM and diversified the ownership across a wide swath of Canadians. Admittedly $100MM is not a lot money-wise, but a million Canadian equity owners is nothing to sneer at. I'd take a flyer on share ownership with a deal like this.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/929913"><b>Omr</b></A> : As far as investment goes, spectrum ownership in itself is not failure. Heck they bought it at a discount, so if they fold and sell the spectrum they can easily recoup most of the investments made. Now it all depends where they want to take the brand. A serious competitor is looking at the long haul, where as the quick cash grabber is looking at the next 5 years after the restriction to sell spectrum is lifted to put the brand on market and get a hefty price for it.<br><br>Also it is still a private entity, they can raise quick money in an IPO. But that places you in an aggressive arena where true profits don't mean as much as shareholder profit, and your competition can convince the board for a share buy-out ... these are risks associated with an IPO. As long as they are private, the demands on a higher/ unrealistic profit margin won't be the pressure. They can look at incremental profit as a stable source of income, but they risk not making enough to cover expenditures that are associated with debt repayment ... forcing them to burrow more and dig a deeper trench.<br><br>I want to believe Globalive is in it for the long-haul, but I'm skeptical because the primary investor Naguib Sawiris of Orascom has shown all the tendencies of being a quick cash grabber. Good news is that he'll be stepping down as CEO of Orascom shortly to focus more on making Orascom merge with another carrier like Vodafone. This buys Globalive time to pay as much back on the Orascom investment and to devirsify their debt mix ... making them a long term viable company.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1335690"><b>joshb</b></A> : I sort of figured that was the case...  But I thought I would through the idea out anyways....<br><br>I think they might be doomed to failure.. :(<br><small>--<br>Middle Age: The time between I don't care and medicare</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1583668"><b>chronoss2009</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Guspaz <A HREF="/useremail/u/510249"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>TekSavvy has hinted that they want to get into other domains; Satellite TV and mobile service have been mentioned by Rocky in the past. If you ask me, Wind Mobile would probably make more sense to be an MVNO with than Bellus/Rogers.<br><br>Unfortunately, Wind doesn't have the nation-wide coverage that Bellus/Rogers do (missing Quebec), and while most of TekSavvy's customers are in Ontario, there are still a decent number of us here in Quebec.<br> </div>um your point hten being that just cause wind doesnt have your area covered not to do it? um thats not how business works if ROCKY can make a buck GO FOR IT.<br>THEY like him hires canadians, and in many peoples opinions would be a really good fit.<br><br>Diversification is the key to success.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1210963"><b>HeadSpinning</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  joshb <A HREF="/useremail/u/1335690"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> I hate to say it. But in the current ownership configuration Wind is most likely doomed... They're going to need another Canadian investor to help them.<br> </div>One with deep pockets.  It would take several hundred million to dilute Orascom down to an acceptable ownership level for the CRTC.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1335690"><b>joshb</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  R0CKY <A HREF="/useremail/u/1206349"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> Trust me... you can count on our already having discussed options with them on this.  The obvious problem on moving forward relates to the ownership rights..... otherwise, we'd be working on a marketing plan with them by now.<br> </div>Well, You are Canadian, Through and through... And so is your company... This might be a stupid totally impossible idea... But why not take some / part ownership in Wind mobile... Might solve the problem...<br><br>I hate to say it. But in the current ownership configuration Wind is most likely doomed... They're going to need another Canadian investor to help them.<br><br>Regards<br><br>Joshb<br><small>--<br>Middle Age: The time between I don't care and medicare</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1094691"><b>Martian3</b></A> : So far, Rocky has proven to be a very shrewd businessman -- shrewd enough at least to realize that screwing your customer base is a bad idea, and that puts him head and shoulders above the rest of Canadian telecom.<br><br>I would've honestly been surprised if he'd come into this thread saying he hadn't already considered this.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/702949"><b>bryanviper</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  R0CKY <A HREF="/useremail/u/1206349"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> Trust me... you can count on our already having discussed options with them on this.  The obvious problem on moving forward relates to the ownership rights..... otherwise, we'd be working on a marketing plan with them by now.<br> </div>well thats good news at least, hopefully you guys are still talking & can come up with something, it would be great fro you to offer cell phone service :)<br><br>& if your not talking I suggest you get back to the table.... PLEASE for all of us =)<br><small>--<br>Computer: Intel Quad Core, 2gb OCZ DDr3, EvGA 8800GTS 512mb, 2x Plextor Burners, Corsair 620psu, Antec 900Case, 5mb DSL from teksavvy<br><br><b>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.MaximumRepair.ca" >www.MaximumRepair.ca</A></b><br>Computer Repair/Upgrades In Toronto.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1545973"><b>Robrr</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  R0CKY <A HREF="/useremail/u/1206349"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> Trust me... you can count on our already having discussed options with them on this.  The obvious problem on moving forward relates to the ownership rights..... otherwise, we'd be working on a marketing plan with them by now.<br> </div>I'll keep that tidbit in my pocket for later, might come in handy. ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1206349"><b>R0CKY</b></A> :  Trust me... you can count on our already having discussed options with them on this.  The obvious problem on moving forward relates to the ownership rights..... otherwise, we'd be working on a marketing plan with them by now.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Seeing how much heat the CRTC is taking lately (windmobile, TV charges), i think the CAIP should take this chance and jump on the train. The media is totally fueled by all this right now and it is now the BEST chance to educate people on net neutrality. just keep it simple: CRTC is killing off the competition (CAIP) and soon or later, there will be gigantic price hikes. The big telcos are doing the same thing to windmobile as the CAIP: stopping the competition and the CRTC is allowing it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1552028"><b>ohzopants</b></A> : There's a rather big problem with this proposal.  Yak (Globalive's long distance/ISP) is already a CAIP member.<br><br>If Wind is going to launch a partnership with an ISP, I'm pretty sure they'd "keep it in the family".]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/929913"><b>Omr</b></A> : Well personally as much as I like TSI I don't think they have the clout to to run a wireless option in this current state. This is big money being gambled, and TSI's ceiling was reached a couple $100mil ago. I think before moving into different operations, TSI has to consolidate it's Internet sector and turn it into a bigger operation.<br><br>What TSI and other CAIP members can do is they can become minority investors that get interest plus they turn the yak brand into a reseller by forcing Globalives hand. TSI and CAIP member can reach a bigger audience if their services were sold in triple play options. I know it sounds like a douche move but in the interest of competition, this is the best time to get a framework for building something together going.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1553227"><b>lyth</b></A> : I would love to see this happen, but it would be pretty surprising because companies like Tek and Acanac are already spending such a large amount of money fighting the stupidity of Bell and the CRTC.  Where are they going to pull out enough money to buy up a significant enough amount of Orascom's investment in Globalive?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/248514"><b>mlerner</b></A> : 7-11 and Petro Canada don't really own a distribution network, they are a reseller of ztar mobile who provides most of the services. Actually in this case, getting a reseller deal with ztar mobile would probably work for TSI. There's a good margin for customer value but also added revenue for TSI and TSI would be free to offer their own billing for end user customers so they could just add airtime top ups to customers existing bills.<br><br>And yes there would be a bit of overhead with support but telephone support I believe can be handled by Ztar and TSI could offer online options for top up and account changes.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1544151"><b>kyle747</b></A> : If teksavvy sold wireless I'd certainly buy it through them - and I'd be shocked if they didn't sell like hotcakes !<br><br>Pretty much everyone I know hates their wireless provider - I'd go with 'savvy just for the rationalized billing. Can't even get robber's to send me a bill monthly after 5 calls !<br><br>Interesting post.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1433737"><b>infamouskid</b></A> : this could work though since all teksavvy services right now are all prepaid.<br><br>could teksavvy support the users that would sign up for this proposed idea of services? not right now. that's more hiring and training needed. not to mention the marketing needed to get that ship going.<br><br>personally if teksavvy ever choose to go wireless mobility, cable internet, satellite tv, cable tv or iptv. i would switch and not care if it costed a bit more. i'm so tired of the big 3 and i think teksavvy and wind mobile both have that same common business approach with its customers. it is time for change and so far tek has been doing a great job showing bell how far real customer service on canadian soil can go.<br><small>--<br>BELL CAN SUCKADANUTZ!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/510249"><b>Guspaz</b></A> : Reselling mobile, though, can possibly give you the momentum to push into being an MVNO.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1627906"><b>freejazz_RdJ</b></A> : The major stumbling block for doing an MVNO is scale. In order for it to payoff, you need a certain minimum number of customers to cover your startup and operating costs. This is easier for PC, Speakout and others because they already own a distribution network and are prepaid, meaning there are is no bad debt to manage and free money from expiring airtime. They also appear to outsource all their systems and customer service to their network provider, leveraging the scale of their network provider.<br><br>I think a re-sold product where TSI takes a commission would be much easier overall, but does give them less control over pricing and their profits. They'd be in the same boat as they are with Bell, most of the revenue going to the carrier.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/510249"><b>Guspaz</b></A> : TekSavvy has hinted that they want to get into other domains; Satellite TV and mobile service have been mentioned by Rocky in the past. If you ask me, Wind Mobile would probably make more sense to be an MVNO with than Bellus/Rogers.<br><br>Unfortunately, Wind doesn't have the nation-wide coverage that Bellus/Rogers do (missing Quebec), and while most of TekSavvy's customers are in Ontario, there are still a decent number of us here in Quebec.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:56:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1583668"><b>chronoss2009</b></A> : ive already been saying it and it makes a nice fit in reality , and would give some caip members a good investment that they can then use for added value and revenues to continue the fight.<br><br>In other words if you can afford too invest in caip members <br>if they can afford to invest in what can make you some money remember its ok to make money just you should not have to step on people or there lives to do it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:12:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Just a thought out there:<br><br>Since wind mobile is fighting against the outrageous CRTC decision, why not team up with them and fight these nasty evil giants. Their cause is different (wireless) but the wholesalers and wind mobile have the same enemy. With 10000 signatures now signed for the dissolution of CRTC, maybe Wind can use this to their advantage as well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:47:27 EDT</pubDate>
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