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Re: Verizon's Buzz for Motorola's Droid Fizzles at Day's End No slider is going to beat the iPhone.
All of the droid ads were aimed at building hype, nothing substantive. The pre ads have that freaky cultish makeup commercial looking wacko... Only the iPhone ads show what the device its advertising actually does.
In any case, no amount of marketing is to blame for the Droid's laughable launch. It just isn't that good of a phone.
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| said by FastiBook:No slider is going to beat the iPhone. All of the droid ads were aimed at building hype, nothing substantive. The pre ads have that freaky cultish makeup commercial looking wacko... Only the iPhone ads show what the device its advertising actually does. In any case, no amount of marketing is to blame for the Droid's laughable launch. It just isn't that good of a phone. - A hate the player(droid) not the game(android)
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said by FastiBook:In any case, no amount of marketing is to blame for the Droid's laughable launch. It just isn't that good of a phone. The problem is that nobody can ever know whether it's a good phone when 60 perfectly good (and costly) seconds are squandered on Hollywood special effects having nothing to do with telephones -- let alone a specific telephone.
It could be a good phone. But, nobody will know what makes it good when a commercial doesn't even mention that the phone exists! I don't know if that was Verizon's or Motorola's fault, but if I were a shareholder of either I'd be pretty upset by this kind of squandered advertising money.
This reminds me of back in the mid-90s. OS/2 (particularly, "Warp") had a fairly good shot at competing with Windows 95. IBM spent money on ads like the Droid ad. Artsy, attention getting, memorable. But, nothing about what Warp could do, differentiated it, etc.
Someone will say Warp didn't have a chance even then. But, it had a lot better chance than anything does today. And, if someone wasn't willing to use advertising $ to really pursue the battle, why the heck were they even in the market to begin with?
That's the feeling I get watching the Droid commercial. I see OS/2 Warp written all over this phone. They're not even trying!
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Verizon takes a shot at AT&T & iPhone in new ads »www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JgrBtn8···embedded
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Amerika | They've been touting service area for years and people simply don't care, particularly if they are in even a minor metro area because they'll get coverage from any of the major carriers. IOW, the only people they are marketing to in these types of ads are people in 'the sticks' of which there are few relatively speaking.
Instead of wasting time with maps they should be DEMOING Droid. I'm watching the Charger game and saw one of the absolutely pointless droid commercials where some stealth fighters drop some black balls all over the place and the commercial ends with "droid is here" or other some such pointless crap.
There are no stealth fighters or magic balls. Nothing shown in the commercial is something I can buy and there is no product shown to even generate a desire to buy. They could have been selling cars or beer or a new Star Warz toy. It reminds me of the huge AT&T mLife mess aired during the Super Bowl that had people thinking it was a commercial for Met-Life. VZW is flushing ad $$$ down the toilet Gates/Seinfeld style with this.
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| said by Z80:SHOW US DROID IN ACTION CHUMPS! Really! I think Apple does it right; they show the actual iPhone in action, and what you see in the commercial isn't pre-rendered, the phone actually runs that well. They should show the Droid browsing around in Google Maps, show it stuck to a windshield calling out directions, show how fast the browser is, etc. They need to expound on its real abilities.
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yea verizons known for being douchy. |
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Re: Verizon's Buzz for Motorola's Droid Fizzles at Day's End I don't hate, as in not have the capability to hate. Plus, uh it's just a phone.
I've read all the specs and the "oh em gee *orgasm* anyone can contribute to android development", at the end of the day a 1979 sony style VCR with brown buttons isn't worth the time to charge the battery. Sliders will always be a niche segment of the market, none of them are very solid, they can/will get very dirty where user can't reach, and require to be slid open for certain things. I mean, it may seem fringe-ish, but if i'm partially crushed in a car, or having some kind of issue health wise, i want to be able to only need one finger to dial 911, not 2 and good luck on top of that. Till the iPhone i've stayed away from bar or "slate" or whatever you wish to call them phones, because the buttons would be exposed all the time. iPhone has one often used button, and it doesn't stick out and unlocking it doesn't requite some combination of button pushing, just a tap and a slide.
And you know what's sad? I'm not even comparing the droid or the pre to the 3Gs, i'm comparing it to the 3G, which is more dated.
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Re: Verizon takes a shot at AT&T & iPhone in new ads You have no idea. My mom & my sister had vzw back in the day, they ran screaming from their customer service to (cingular) att and have had them since. I mean complain about coverage all you want, no one's experience even in the same house with the same model device is going to be the same, what keeps us with att is customer service and roll over minutes, not the phones, and not how much 3G coverage they have.
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Amerika | reply to FBGuy
But Apple wrote the book on being douchy with their Macs. |
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Same here. I had VZW and the service was okay but the billing was ALWAYS messed up and of course in VZWs favor. Every month I would have to call and every month I was told it was fixed. The next month not only would it not be fixed, there would be more billing errors and a LATE FEE for me not paying the last billing error. I went to Cingular and not a problem since. I travel all over on business and never have a problem with connectivity. |
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Re: Verizon's Buzz for Motorola's Droid Fizzles at Day's End seriously. you choose your cell phone based on that 0.0001% chance that you are going to only have 1 hand available to call 911 in the event of a car accident? and who cares about the unlock screen. i push 1 button to get passed that. no reason to slide.
lets both just admit it. we are both fanboys.
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Re: Verizon takes a shot at AT&T & iPhone in new ads the only billing errors I have ever had were because I was too lazy to read the fine print. i'm obviously not saying that you did this.
and anytime that there was a repeating billing error i would go one step higher in the customer service ring. I never suggest talking on the phone with the billing department. instead go to a store where you can be face to face with them (in case you need to choke a b*tch).
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Amerika | This was billing for services I didn't have or more often being double billed. I went a 6 month stretch of VZ charging a single phone number on a single bill for 2 different minute plans as a result of them botching a plan change. After the 6th month of having to call and get it fixed, I just paid the ETF and ported. VZ reps and management were always nice and apologetic but it didn't prevent me from having to call every month, sometimes twice a month (as I would get letters threatening disconnection for not having paid the bill in full). There were a number of months where to avoid disconnection I would have to pay for the plan I didn't have plus the late fees with the promise that it would be credited on the next bill. But of course the credit would never happen and I would get the same screwed up double-plan bill the next month. Verizon billing is a total disaster. |
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| dont know what to say other than that sucks.
situations like this are why i absolutely believe in the YMMV philosophy when it comes to customer service. its the only way to give services a chance.
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Amerika | Billing issues to see to happen more often than 'normal' with Verizon. I've read a number of similar nightmare stories about FiOS even though it's a completely different division. Perhaps they use the same billing software platform that is prone to errors.
If I didn't have the billing problems I would have certainly stayed with VZW. Thus far AT&T hasn't given me any problems but if they gave me the same coverage problems as I read about I would bail in a second, particularly next year when VZW supposedly gets a new smaller iPhone. »www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/p···ne_N.htm |
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