US Cable Support > Comcast HSI > The Bandwidth Limits/Congestion Management Topic

said by JohnInSJ:

Especially when trying to take away market share from the established, dominant player

I use the living crap out of my 12/2 business class connection. My average usage is between 120 and 150GB/month: »www.schettino.us/monitor/schetti···and.html


Sure, you can use more. But you're a very very very small minority of the overall subscriber base. We've been round this pole before

said by WernerSchutz:

Using "the living crap" is a subjective appraisal.

I believe if there is a cap, it should be clearly stated, as in the speed, in all advertsisements regarding such connection. What is is for, averages, and all that smoke screen is just marketing to compete against a superior product, as FiOS is.

said by WernerSchutz:

The reason nutrition info is displayed was because that was mandated to prevent glossing over or omitting such important harmful data.

That needs to be done regarding to the advertising and the cap.

said by sortofageek:

Where are the McDonald's ads which spell out the nutrition info?

said by sortofageek:

I asked you because you are the one who said Comcast needs to include the cap in their advertising, implying having disclosure in the TOS and elsewhere on their website isn't enough.

You used McDonald's nutrition info as an example, but I have never seen McD ads which spell out nutrition info.

said by fbg :

Using cell phone analogy is phony, as ISP don't charge usage by the minute.

said by WernerSchutz:

I did not say that McDonalds ads show nutrition info, JohninSJ mentioned that one.

said by WernerSchutz:

The reason nutrition info is displayed was because that was mandated to prevent glossing over or omitting such important harmful data.

That needs to be done regarding to the advertising and the cap.

said by sortofageek:

It isn't important enough to me to keep hammering it, but I don't know how else to read what you said here:

The bottom line for me is that Comcast's management of bandwidth doesn't appear to be an issue for more than a handful of people relative to their entire customer base. I know it upsets you and IPPlanMan. I guess I just don't understand why you need to tell us the same thing over such a long period of time.

I mean, I do know you don't like it. I'm just as sorry as I can manage to be over that, but it is well documented here, so I'm not likely to forget and most people have better memory than I do. You're on record. You can stop now until such time there truly is something new to tell us.

said by WernerSchutz:

The reason nutrition info is displayed was because that was mandated to prevent glossing over or omitting such important harmful data.

said by DavisPhotog:

They don't advertise that eating their food makes you fat because it doesn't do that by itself. It requires excessive consumption. Just playing the devil's advocate here.

Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits. I find it hard to get more than 100-300kb/sec down on many torrents, whereas my friend on Time Warner consistently gets 1mb/sec down on a comparably-tiered connection.

What gives, Comcast?

said by DavisPhotog:

Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits.

said by EG:

Do you have any packet captures such as from the Wireshark application showing spoofed TCP resets to prove it ?

said by DavisPhotog:

I would in fact like to get to the bottom of this. I can't seem to make WireShark work on OS X (it opens, says something about building a font library, and then closes). Can you recommend any alternatives?

said by jlivingood:

Recommendation - start a new thread. Posting a new issue on a 115-page thread is unlikely to result in satisfactory troubleshooting by other users.

said by DavisPhotog:

They don't advertise that eating their food makes you fat because it doesn't do that by itself. It requires excessive consumption. Just playing the devil's advocate here.

said by IPPlanMan:

Excessive consumption...

Don't the higher service speeds themselves contribute to "excessive consumption"?

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Since the downloads take less time, you'll have a higher consumption...

said by IPPlanMan:

Fact is, the cap is the same for all of the tiers.

said by sortofageek:

Trying to follow your logic, it seems the "you" would have to be a person with a mission to fill time with downloading. That wouldn't be me. Regardless of the speed of my connection, I download only what I actually need. A faster connection just gets the job done faster, so I can get on with life.

But then the existence of cheesecake, which I do love, in abundance does not cause me to eat it in excess, either.

This is another re-hash, BTW.

And yet another repetitive comment. Like it, buy it. If you don't, look for something more appealing to you.

Do you have something actually new to discuss in regard to bandwidth limits?

said by sortofageek:

Trying to follow your logic, it seems the "you" would have to be a person with a mission to fill time with downloading. That wouldn't be me. Regardless of the speed of my connection, I download only what I actually need. A faster connection just gets the job done faster, so I can get on with life.

But then the existence of cheesecake, which I do love, in abundance does not cause me to eat it in excess, either.

This is another re-hash, BTW.

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And yet another repetitive comment. Like it, buy it. If you don't, look for something more appealing to you.

Do you have something actually new to discuss in regard to bandwidth limits?

said by JohnInSJ:

I use it without regard for any caps (mine are much higher then the non-business class caps, but even so I would not come close to a 250gb cap with extensive use by multiple users) and I am in no way a "typical" home comcast user.

said by sortofageek:

For those with business class accounts, it probably feels unlimited because it is, at least for now.

As documented in first post in this topic:
11-06-09 Business Class Accounts not capped per comcastcares