andyb
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SW Ontario
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| A fishy CRTC tarriff filed by bell?
Todays releases include an appoval of an exparte appliction by bell.That part is normal but usually there has to be a tarriff filed on public record with a couple days.Not this time.The tariff becomes effictive Jan 1 and the tarriff does not have to be filed on public record untill......Jan 1. Something fishy with this tarriff.
Maybe I'm gettin a little paranoid but the crtc and bell are a little to cozy for my liking with these things and seem to be getting worse.
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2009/2009-700.htm |
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON
1 edit | hmm then we got something else to bring to federal court. This absolutely needs to be on public record and in the hands of affected parties before being approved. |
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dbsanfte
join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC | Try a simple info request first, if that doesn't work then yea, it's lawsuit time. |
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An_Onymous
join:2009-10-24
Canada
| reply to andyb
The two Tariff applications related to Telecom Order CRTC 2009-700 are not on CRTC's website.
Bell's TN7226 is missing from »www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2009/b2.htm
Bell Aliant's TN291 is missing from »www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2009/b54.htm |
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AkFubar
Resistance is Futile
join:2005-02-28
Toronto Can. | reply to andyb
Saw this in the Bell Forum:
»[ TV] Bell TV raising rates on January 1st 2010
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Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC | reply to andyb
I also got a letter from Videotron not long ago informing me of a price hike because of the local TV tax. |
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Bhelled
@bell.ca
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Please send me a note when bhell isn't raising prices in order to enhance its customers' negative cash-flow experience.
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btw: Your resistance isn't actually futile - it's an old-fashioned 339Ω 1/4W (maybe 1/8W - hard to tell) 1% tolerance (which is very high-precision) carbon or metal-film resistor - and from the style and background colour it looks like it was made by Philips. Through-hole devices (i.e. those with wire leads) are very mid-late last millennium. You need to get with the times and update to surface mount  |
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AkFubar
Resistance is Futile
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Toronto Can.
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| said by Bhelled :btw: Your resistance isn't actually futile - it's an old-fashioned 339Ω 1/4W (maybe 1/8W - hard to tell) 1% tolerance (which is very high-precision) carbon or metal-film resistor - and from the style and background colour it looks like it was made by Philips. Through-hole devices (i.e. those with wire leads) are very mid-late last millennium. You need to get with the times and update to surface mount LOL you are better remembering the colour code than I am. Anyways when I was a tech these were in vogue. I've since moved on to other pursuits but I have many fond memories from those times.
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Mebbe I should have said capacitance is futile. 
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An_Onymous
join:2009-10-24
Canada | Now if you had a short across the resistor, then the "Resistance is futile".  |
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andyb
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SW Ontario
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| reply to An_Onymous
I know they are not there thats the reason for the post.It's a big secret.The tariff comes into effect the same day the tarriff will be posted,Jan 1 2010.At first I thought it might be the uncorolated charges but that tarriff is on hold.....Or is it? |
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Bhelled
@bell.ca
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said by AkFubar  Mebbe I should have said capacitance is futile.
[/BQUOTE :(Actually, I just clued in. That's the symbol for the anti-bell resistance movement, isn't it? Do I get one when I go live with Teksavvy?) Anyway ... this is weird. I looked at the linked page and I swear I saw the following, but then I refreshed the page and the part in bold was gone (or was it just my imagination?): An ex parte application is an application that has been filed with the Commission without notice to the public and, as such, is not placed on the public record when initially filed. An ex parte decision is one in which the Commission disposes of an application solely on the basis of the applicant's submissions. Subsection 61(3) of the Telecommunications Act allows the Commission to make an ex parte decision where it considers that the circumstances of the case justify it. In Review of regulatory framework, Telecom Decision CRTC 94‑19, 16 September 1994, the Commission set out several considerations to be balanced in any determination to permit ex parte tariff filings, including the public interest in the effective operation of the competitive marketplace and the public interest in an open regulatory process.
At the CRTC, we pretend to regulate in the public interest and telecom duopoly pretends to obey. As our bosses, they prefer it that way.---- |
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AkFubar
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Toronto Can.
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| reply to An_Onymous
Can't remember. What is the nature of these missing ones?
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON | Whatever it is, I pray it's nothing to do with GAS. It's definitely a mystery though, can't find details on that tariff anywhere. |
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| said by mlerner :Whatever it is, I pray it's nothing to do with GAS. It's definitely a mystery though, can't find details on that tariff anywhere. Write/Email the CRTC and ask? Also ask why should there be no disclosure of a rate increase and for what? Is the CRTC maybe helping Bell with their Christmas sales by pre-approving price increases, and not divulging it to the public whom they claim to serve?
Let the Xmas rush go through then on Jan 1 the new "Gotcha" price increase w/o prior notice?
Seems something the CRTC would do to help Bell. It's their mandate to serve Bell and only Bell's best interests.
Email the CRTC and just ask. Paste their reply. |
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An_Onymous
join:2009-10-24
Canada
| reply to AkFubar
It would seem those are Group B tariff filings under CRTC's "streamline" process for price increase. See »www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2008/···8-74.htm
CRTC already rubber stamp the interim approval which we know can take a few years while we are being gouged. It is a matter of Bell filing the actual tariff and let others comment on it to make it official. There are no deadlines and since the original filing is one-sided, you pretty much have to poll CRTC to find out WHEN and WHAT before you can comment.
Seems like everything is already pre-approved. Why do we still need CRTC? Why does CRTC need 200 million budget for 200 people if they rubber stamp everything? |
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mlerner
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| said by An_Onymous :Seems like everything is already pre-approved. Why do we still need CRTC? Why does CRTC need 200 million budget for 200 people if they rubber stamp everything? That's what I ask myself everyday, may as well go to Bell and say do what you wish then shut down the commission. |
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AkFubar
Resistance is Futile
join:2005-02-28
Toronto Can. | reply to andyb
Well I guess if it affects us, TSI will let us know. |
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON | reply to andyb
I'm gonna email them politely and see if they'll release the TN. |
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Angelo_
The Network Guy
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join:2002-06-18 | in a time of a recession we shouldn't be seeing any price increases... bell is trying to play a dangerou s game here |
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON | reply to andyb
I submitted a request to the CRTC library. They have copies of these things don't they? |
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