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| British break up several bailed-out banks
»www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···352.html
quote: LONDON -- The British government announced Tuesday that it will break up parts of major financial institutions bailed out by taxpayers, highlighting a growing divide across the Atlantic over how to deal with the massive banks that were partially nationalized during the height of the financial crisis.
The British government -- spurred on by European regulators -- is forcing the Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds Banking Group and Northern Rock to sell off parts of their operations. The Europeans are calling for more and smaller banks to increase competition and eliminate the threat posed by banks so large that they must be rescued by taxpayers, no matter how they conducted their business, in order to avoid damaging the global financial system.
The move to downsize some of Britain's largest banks comes as U.S. politicians are debating whether American banks should also be required to shrink. The Obama administration has maintained that large banks should be preserved because they play an important role in the economy and that taxpayers instead should be protected by creating a new system for liquidating large banks that run into problems. But Britain's decision already is being cited by a growing chorus of experts, including prominent bankers and economists, who want the United States to pursue a similar approach.
I am a fan of a free market. I for one was against the bailouts to the banks from the government. That said, I have to agree with the brits on this one. All mega banks that got bailed out [even stock trading firms] because they were deemed to big to fail, need to get broken up into smaller chunks. Hopefully by being smaller, they wont be to big to fail, and allowed to fail the next time. -- I want Obama money. "wheres it comming from?" I dunno, his stash. I don't care, I just want obama money. Shows the lack of education and the greed of people. Hand outs from the government comes from your pay check and wallet. Think about it. |
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  Mashiki Balking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04 Woodstock, ON | The european banking system is a liquid shell game as it is. It doesn't matter if they break them up or not. If you think it's bad here, you should try dealing with stuff over there some time. |
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 Spice300 Premium join:2006-01-10
| reply to Snakeoil The U.K. approach is to bail them out and then split them up.
The U.S. approach is to bail them out.
The U.S. should have obeyed the law by allowing the FDIC to seize insolvent banks, cover the insured accounts, split them up, sell the pieces and jail the crooks. |
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| reply to Mashiki said by Mashiki :The european banking system is a liquid shell game as it is. It doesn't matter if they break them up or not. If you think it's bad here, you should try dealing with stuff over there some time. there are multiple different attitudes/regulatory environments in "the european banking system" (as on might expect since it is regulated by the individual nations themselves - with only an overlying EU "lowest common denominator" standard) ranging from the lax to the ultra conservative {eg Spain, Sweden....} |
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 pauldenton
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| reply to Spice300 said by Spice300 :The U.K. approach is to bail them out and then split them up. hmm - the difference is that the UK has been willing to assume control because we aren't so scared of "nationalisation" that we ignore/evade the reality that the government own these banks.....
the irony that the post missed is that Brown's govenrment strongarmed Lloyds into buying HBOS when HBOS got into trouble (on a timescale that prevented proper due dilligence) and is now forcing the combined bank to sell of bits of itself in a way that still provides less competition than if it hadn't got them to combine in the first place (to the great detriment of Lloyds shareholders.....)
Northern Rock is being split into a "good bank" (that will be sold) and a "bad bank" that will stay with taxpayers and be run down.... - so no added competition there..... quote: The break-up of Northern Rock will see about £10bn of low-risk mortgages and £19bn-£20bn of retail deposits hived off into the good part of the bank in preparation for a sale. The government is keen to see this sold to a banking entrant to stimulate competition. The rest of Northern Rocks mortgage book totalling about £55bn plus unsecured loans and Treasury assets will be held in a government-controlled asset company and wound down or sold off. Northern Rock said 90 per cent of the loans that will form part of this business were performing. . . {the European Commission} imposed some constraints on the banks ability to write business as a penalty for the state aid it has received. Northern Rock and any group that wants to buy the bank will have to keep new lending and retail deposits below a certain threshold until the end of 2011 and ensure that its mortgage rates are not market leading. The government will inject a further £8bn to fund the split.
The constraints will ensure that for two years at least Northern Rock will be a slimmed-down version of its former self. At the height of the property boom in 2007, the bank was writing about 20 per cent of new mortgage lending and its loan book had expanded to £100bn. The balance sheet of the new bank is expected to be about a fifth of the peak size.
»www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0ca608c0-c3b3···49a.html
as for the RBS "break up" i'm a little at a loss to see how they propose to sell of the "Nat West" brand in Scotland, whilst continuing to operate as "Nat West" in England and Wales {or maybe they plan to sell these as "Williams and Glyns" also??}
seems to be no mention of RBS being forced/chosing to sell of it's US operations like Citizens Financial Group {which it's owned since 1988, operating in Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island (where it's based) and Vermont - as Charter One Bank in some due to a michegan bank being "citizens bank" there....} |
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  Mashiki Balking The Enemy's Plans
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| reply to pauldenton said by pauldenton :there are multiple different attitudes/regulatory environments in "the european banking system" (as on might expect since it is regulated by the individual nations themselves - with only an overlying EU "lowest common denominator" standard) ranging from the lax to the ultra conservative {eg Spain, Sweden....} That was the point I was making, in less words. |
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