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 DavisPhotogFlyingphotogPremium,MVM
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2 edits | Is Comcast "throttling" torrent downloads in Oakland? They don't advertise that eating their food makes you fat because it doesn't do that by itself. It requires excessive consumption. Just playing the devil's advocate here.
Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits. I find it hard to get more than 100-300kb/sec down on many torrents, whereas my friend on Time Warner consistently gets 1mb/sec down on a comparably-tiered connection.
What gives, Comcast?
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|  | | DavisPhotogFlyingphotogPremium,MVM
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Rohnert Park, CA | Re: Is Comcast "throttling" torrent downloads in Oakland? Thanks! | |
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 jlivingoodPremium,VIP
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kudos:1 | said by DavisPhotog:They don't advertise that eating their food makes you fat because it doesn't do that by itself. It requires excessive consumption. Just playing the devil's advocate here. Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits. I find it hard to get more than 100-300kb/sec down on many torrents, whereas my friend on Time Warner consistently gets 1mb/sec down on a comparably-tiered connection. What gives, Comcast? Sorry - we're not doing that. Your problem lies elsewhere.
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|  EGThe wings of lovePremium
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kudos:9 | said by DavisPhotog:Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits. Do you have any packet captures such as from the Wireshark application showing spoofed TCP resets to prove it ? | |
| | DavisPhotogFlyingphotogPremium,MVM
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Rohnert Park, CA | Re: Is Comcast "throttling" torrent downloads in Oakland? said by EG:said by DavisPhotog:Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits. Do you have any packet captures such as from the Wireshark application showing spoofed TCP resets to prove it ? I would in fact like to get to the bottom of this. I can't seem to make WireShark work on OS X (it opens, says something about building a font library, and then closes). Can you recommend any alternatives?
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| | | jlivingoodPremium,VIP
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kudos:1 | Re: Is Comcast "throttling" torrent downloads in Oakland? said by DavisPhotog:said by EG:said by DavisPhotog:Comcast seems to be throttling torrent downloads in Oakland, albeit not heavy enough to immediately suspect them as culprits. Do you have any packet captures such as from the Wireshark application showing spoofed TCP resets to prove it ? I would in fact like to get to the bottom of this. I can't seem to make WireShark work on OS X (it opens, says something about building a font library, and then closes). Can you recommend any alternatives? Recommendation - start a new thread. Posting a new issue on a 115-page thread is unlikely to result in satisfactory troubleshooting by other users.
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| said by DavisPhotog:They don't advertise that eating their food makes you fat because it doesn't do that by itself. It requires excessive consumption. Just playing the devil's advocate here. LOL
Yes, this was my point. I'm glad someone got it.
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1 edit | Higher Speeds Force Some to Download More? Excessive consumption...
Don't the higher service speeds themselves contribute to "excessive consumption"?
You are less likely to download that 2-3 GB 720p HD Movie on Comcast's 1 MB / 384 Kbps service tier than you are to download it on the 12 Mbps / 2 Mbps or 20 Mbps / 4 Mbps tiers.
As for the 50 Mbps / 10 Mbps tier... you're even more likely to download it....
Since the downloads take less time, you'll have a higher consumption...
Fact is, the cap is the same for all of the tiers.
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1 edit | Re: Higher Speeds Force Some to Download More? said by IPPlanMan:Excessive consumption... Don't the higher service speeds themselves contribute to "excessive consumption"? ... Since the downloads take less time, you'll have a higher consumption... Trying to follow your logic, it seems the "you" would have to be a person with a mission to fill time with downloading. That wouldn't be me. Regardless of the speed of my connection, I download only what I actually need. A faster connection just gets the job done faster, so I can get on with life.
But then the existence of cheesecake, which I do love, in abundance does not cause me to eat it in excess, either.
This is another re-hash, BTW.
said by IPPlanMan:Fact is, the cap is the same for all of the tiers. And yet another repetitive comment. Like it, buy it. If you don't, look for something more appealing to you.
Do you have something actually new to discuss in regard to bandwidth limits?
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2 edits | Re: Higher Speeds Force Some to Download More? said by sortofageek:said by IPPlanMan:Excessive consumption... Don't the higher service speeds themselves contribute to "excessive consumption"? ... Since the downloads take less time, you'll have a higher consumption... Trying to follow your logic, it seems the "you" would have to be a person with a mission to fill time with downloading. That wouldn't be me. Regardless of the speed of my connection, I download only what I actually need. A faster connection just gets the job done faster, so I can get on with life. But then the existence of cheesecake, which I do love, in abundance does not cause me to eat it in excess, either. This is another re-hash, BTW. said by IPPlanMan:Fact is, the cap is the same for all of the tiers. And yet another repetitive comment. Like it, buy it. If you don't, look for something more appealing to you. Do you have something actually new to discuss in regard to bandwidth limits? I believe that having a superior tool enables one to do and accomplish more. The same way if one has a bigger and faster vehicle compared to a bicycle one would travel more or if one would have a bigger house one would purchase more furniture or have larger parties.
That is why one purchases a faster connection, to do more, not ONLY to do it in less time.
I have Comcast TV also and added a few channels I liked because I wanted to watch MORE of the programming I liked. As a result of this purchase, my consumption increased.
I have a cellular data plan because I wanted to use MORE internet access on the go, not only faster.
In this case, the increase in speed can be equated to an increase in EFFICIENCY. In any business oriented mindset, one would expect to accomplish MORE, not only faster. If in a board meeting I would present a device that would increase our efficiency but would expect the overall production to stay at a flat level, that would be unexpected. No, we would want to use the new tool at a stable good level, say 80%, and increase our output. | |
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kudos:1 | said by sortofageek:Trying to follow your logic, it seems the "you" would have to be a person with a mission to fill time with downloading. That wouldn't be me. Regardless of the speed of my connection, I download only what I actually need. A faster connection just gets the job done faster, so I can get on with life. But then the existence of cheesecake, which I do love, in abundance does not cause me to eat it in excess, either. This is another re-hash, BTW. ... And yet another repetitive comment. Like it, buy it. If you don't, look for something more appealing to you. Do you have something actually new to discuss in regard to bandwidth limits? If you had a bigger plate, you could (and many would) take more cake. 
Speed means I'm actually going to download that HD Trailer or watch that HD Movie from iTunes/Netflix instead of thinking that it'll take too long.
Remember 56k modems? What was our consumption with those? It was probably pretty low, because none of us wanted to wait for a 60 MB trailer to download. If we were lucky, we'd download the smallest, lowest resolution file possible under the circumstances.
Higher speed connections have driven resolution/size and resolution/size drives higher speeds... hopefully...
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| Re: Higher Speeds Force Some to Download More? Please notice you have a link to this subtopic in the first post in this thread to this which has been driven into the ground a number of times.
Again, I am sorry you are not pleased with Comcast offerings and sincerely hope you find a service more to your liking.
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