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BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to woody7

Re: hmmm.....

said by woody7:

Just don't commit to a 2 year deal and leave early ,
no one is forcing you to sign the contract
So if you find out the service sucks you should just have to stick it out? I'm 100% sure if you went into a restaurant and found the food inedible you would NOT have to pay for it.

Also the Droid is only available with a 2 year contract. So yeah your are forced. There isn't any month to month or 1 year contract. Even with a 2 year contract it's $200. Screw that. Some of these phones without contract are $500. Come on it's a phone not a computer or a TV.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

said by BF69:

So if you find out the service sucks you should just have to stick it out? I'm 100% sure if you went into a restaurant and found the food inedible you would NOT have to pay for it.
All cell phone companies give customers an opportunity to quit their service within a 2 week to 30 day period in case they are not happy with the service. If someone can't decide within this window that the service is right for them, then tough.
said by BF69:

Come on it's a phone not a computer or a TV.
Yes, its a phone. This doesn't merit Congressional action. Perhaps people should think twice before entering into 2 year contracts if they can't afford to pay the ETF.
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jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

2 weeks isn't enough time to properly evaluate phones such as the phones in question. 30 days is barely enough time to properly test out a phone. The rest of your statement is just as insulting yet entertaining as usual.



pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD

said by jjeffeory:

2 weeks isn't enough time to properly evaluate phones such as the phones in question. 30 days is barely enough time to properly test out a phone. The rest of your statement is just as insulting yet entertaining as usual.
Simply because you cannot do it does not mean it isn't true.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

It's not about me specifically. I am thinking of the people who travel and go outside their home area from time to time. Some people actually travel. I think a 6 week window would be pretty fair. Simply because you, me, or anyone thinks something is true doesn't make it true either. Come on...



NOCTech75
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join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA
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reply to pnh102
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Yes, its a phone. This doesn't merit Congressional action. Perhaps people should think twice before entering into 2 year contracts if they can't afford to pay the ETF.
Sure it does, the inept shit needs to prove she is "doing something for her constituents" to ensure she stays in power for her next term.

chimera

join:2009-06-09
Washington, DC

reply to pnh102
Except it does since this effects interstate commerce which the federal government is empowered to regulated. Ditto for the internet.



BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to pnh102

said by pnh102:

All cell phone companies give customers an opportunity to quit their service within a 2 week to 30 day period in case they are not happy with the service. If someone can't decide within this window that the service is right for them, then tough.
Verizon has been proven to NOT honor that promise. So what's you answer to that smart guy?

Yes, its a phone. This doesn't merit Congressional action. Perhaps people should think twice before entering into 2 year contracts if they can't afford to pay the ETF.
If the phone is only available via 2 year contract what other option do they have EINSTIEN? You are obviously of the mindset that business should be able to fuck people all they want because they are busniess. As a person that runs his own small busines I do NOT feel that is the proper way to conduct one's self. I guess ome of us have morals others like you lack them.


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD

reply to jjeffeory

said by jjeffeory:

It's not about me specifically. I am thinking of the people who travel and go outside their home area from time to time. Some people actually travel. I think a 6 week window would be pretty fair. Simply because you, me, or anyone thinks something is true doesn't make it true either. Come on...
So in other words, these people did not think through a major purchase. Perhaps they should not plan to switch carriers when a trip is being planned.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!


pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD

reply to chimera

said by chimera:

Except it does since this effects interstate commerce which the federal government is empowered to regulated. Ditto for the internet.
Heh. In the eyes of the federal government, everything falls under interstate commerce, and can thus be regulated at the federal level.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to BF69
That's incorrect. The Droid can be bought (for $570) without a contract.

Verizon should do what they want on this. There are three other major carriers, and Verizon, T-Mobile and maybe even AT&T will allow you to get a phone off-contract, then sign up for a wireless plan without a contract with the same features and pricing as a 2-year contracted plan.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to jjeffeory
Verizon, Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile offer prepaid plans. Test out service using those. Infinite return window, no contract.



pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD

reply to BF69

Re: hmmm.....

said by BF69:

Verizon has been proven to NOT honor that promise. So what's you answer to that smart guy?
How is that relevant to your original point of not being able to buy a spanking new phone without a 2 year contract?
said by BF69:

If the phone is only available via 2 year contract what other option do they have EINSTIEN?
If you find the terms of the contract disagreeable to the point that it detracts from your use of the device, then perhaps you should reconsider such a purchase.
said by BF69:

You are obviously of the mindset that business should be able to fuck people all they want because they are busniess.
And again, you fail to provide proof that businesses are forcing people into these contracts. If you do not like the terms of the contract and agree anyway, you really have no place to complain.
said by BF69:

As a person that runs his own small busines I do NOT feel that is the proper way to conduct one's self. I guess ome of us have morals others like you lack them.
Based on the tone of your posts, I can't say that running a lemonade stand at your parents' house qualifies as a small business.

And as a business owner, you of all people should appreciate contract law.
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thender
Screen tycoon
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Brooklyn, NY
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reply to BF69

who are you to say what a device should cost?

said by BF69:Come on it's a phone not a computer or a TV.


What makes this statement ridiculous is that a computer or a TV can cost anywhere from $50 to $15,000.

removed See Profile sells flashlights that cost more than some small new TVs.

Quality.

If you want a handheld device under half an inch thick that plays h.264 video on a 3" screen, can give you turn by turn directions, and get reception in a subway station, guess what - IT'LL COST MONEY!!!

Most people get these phones seeing how cheap they are with a contract even though they DO NOT NEED THEM, or use 90% of their features. Then they complain about the contract.

This is a case of stupid consumer more than big bad evil phone company.

FWIW, there are numerous things I hate verizon for, such as the new fee for online bill paying. I just thought this argument was ridiculous.
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Big Dawg 23

join:2002-03-27
Northfield, MN

reply to BF69

Re: hmmm.....

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I can buy the phone on my current account with no two year contract. Look next to the $559.99 It says MONTH TO MONTH. So now what is your answer Smart Guy!


brian
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join:2002-05-02
Lake Forest, CA
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reply to BF69

said by BF69:

Also the Droid is only available with a 2 year contract.
FALSE! I can purchase it on VZW's website for $560 with no contract. With a one year contract, the phone is $270. It's still too much, but at least you have the option unlike the iPhone.
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NOCTech75
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join:2009-06-29
Marietta, GA
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by brian:

said by BF69:

Also the Droid is only available with a 2 year contract.
FALSE! I can purchase it on VZW's website for $560 with no contract. With a one year contract, the phone is $270. It's still too much, but at least you have the option unlike the iPhone.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.


woody7
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join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA

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reply to BF69
did you notice the winking smiley? I didn't mean to start a war, but in this instance, posters are right and some have the right idea,my point was that no one is forcing you to sign a contract, and I feel you need between 30-60 days to evaluate. Now having said that as some posters have said, people see the low price, and don't pay attention to the service, and I feel that with all the message boards and sites like DSL reports that people should do a little home work before they buy and get buyers remorse. Peace
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