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LoKi DarkGod

join:2002-10-10
Brockville, ON

Actual Speed of Unlimited?

I just had a question.. I've used Teksavvy for quite a while now the unlimited plan and was pretty sure I had been on a 6M/800 at my last 2 appartments (span of past few years).. When I moved at the beginning of Nov, I had many problems with getting my line and DSL moved over (hardware problems at the C/O, wrong line coming into appt, short in wires, etc) but now that I have everything setup, I notice I'm only at 5M/800.

I went to the teksavvy site which says that unlimited is only 5M/800, but the FAQ @ »TekSavvy FAQ »Price Plans for Premium Capped and Unlimited DSL Options says 6M/800.. is this just a luck of the draw thing as to which Bell puts you on, or can you be switched?

I know an extra 1M may not sound like much, but when I stream divx shows/movies, every bit helps with preventing "Buffering..." lol
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buttaknife

join:2007-06-01
6M is accidental, as non-Bell customers are not offered that speed at this time. Not something TekSavvy controls, sometimes you get lucky.


Inssomniak
Premium
join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON

said by buttaknife See Profile :

6M is accidental, as non-Bell customers are not offered that speed at this time. Not something TekSavvy controls, sometimes you get lucky.
Non bell customers are offered them, but only on business lines.
If you had it in your apartment you were just lucky as buttaknife said.


TSI Steve
TSI Steve
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-12
Chatham, ON

reply to LoKi DarkGod
said by LoKi DarkGod See Profile :

I went to the teksavvy site which says that unlimited is only 5M/800, but the FAQ @ »TekSavvy FAQ »Price Plans for Premium Capped and Unlimited DSL Options says 6M/800.. is this just a luck of the draw thing as to which Bell puts you on, or can you be switched?
It's a typo. Regular DSL service (PPPoE) is 5056/800 max.

Non-PPPoE is 6016/800 but it also costs $250 for setup and $99 / mth for residential service.

Steve
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TSI Steve - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.
Authorized TSI employee ( »TekSavvy FAQ »Official support in the forum )


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
reply to LoKi DarkGod
Business is also 6/800 if you can convince Bell to install a business line, but it also costs twice as much as residential. At that point, it's cheaper to just get two lines and bond them.


xbell

@cgocable.net

said by Guspaz See Profile :

if you can convince Bell to install a business line,
Bell has no restrictions on where they will install a business line.

d0rmamu

join:2004-09-28
Toronto, ON
reply to LoKi DarkGod
On a somewhat related note, is ~630 KB/sec actual download speed indicative of a 6M profile?


Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·3 Web


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said by d0rmamu See Profile :

On a somewhat related note, is ~630 KB/sec actual download speed indicative of a 6M profile?
Yes.
6000Mbit * 0.85 (overhead taken out) = 5100Mbit
5100Mbit * 1/8 bytes per bit = 637.5 KBytes per second.

Edit: for a 5Meg line, it would be as follows:
5000Mbit * 0.85 (-15% overhead as above) = 4250Mbit
4250Mbit / 8 bits per byte = 531.25KB/s

I've used different notation, but the calculations are the exact same

d0rmamu

join:2004-09-28
Toronto, ON
Thanks for the info!


mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

reply to xbell
said by xbell :

said by Guspaz See Profile :

if you can convince Bell to install a business line,
Bell has no restrictions on where they will install a business line.
Except if you already have an active telephone line in which case it must be a business line to get DSL.

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
reply to LoKi DarkGod
UM i dont get it why the hell would i want a business line?

take 2 TSI lines bond together and wella cheaper and you get 3200GB capcity

setup your linux servers and go nuts
THEY CANT DO S**T ABOUT THAT


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
Nobody asked you, and why would TekSavvy object? You're implying that they would want to.

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23
·TekSavvy Solutions..

reply to LoKi DarkGod
the math

8 bits to byte
1 megabit
125Kilobytes/sec
trying to FUD people with wacky WRONG truths is unethical to say the least

if you have 2 megabit the theoretical max should be 250Kbytes
5 megabit should be ?
625Kbytes
so if your getting 630Kbytes
YOU ARE NOT ON A 5 MEG profile

bell employees used to tell me that 5 megabit = 500 Kbytes
and that 4 megabit was 400Kbytes
haha


Oinktastic

join:2005-08-24
Scarborough
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·3 Web

chronoss2009, your numbers are only correct if you have no overhead on your connection. Unfortunately, PPPoE suffers from the fact that it requires 15% overhead. Unless you've changed to cable or something else since you wrote your Teksavvy review, then you're suffering from the same overhead which reduces a 5Meg sync profile to a mere 530KB/s.

The Bell employee's numbers were closer to the truth than yours, unfortunately.

nigrunze

join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC

said by Oinktastic See Profile :

chronoss2009, your numbers are only correct if you have no overhead on your connection. Unfortunately, PPPoE suffers from the fact that it requires 15% overhead. Unless you've changed to cable or something else since you wrote your Teksavvy review, then you're suffering from the same overhead which reduces a 5Meg sync profile to a mere 530KB/s.

The Bell employee's numbers were closer to the truth than yours, unfortunately.
Your post makes sense. Unfortunately, the one you replied to does not follow logic and will either ignore your post completely, or try to argue that real world situations don't exist.

chronoss2009

join:2008-09-23

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reply to chronoss2009
no truth is exactly what i wrote
the up to scam they pull is the very fabric of the main issues at bell
aka the lying the cheating and blatant fraud


Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18
anyone want to pass tin a tin foil hat?

bigbusa

join:2007-09-09

reply to Oinktastic
said by Oinktastic See Profile :

PPPoE suffers from the fact that it requires 15% overhead.
I think the overhead comes from 10% atm overhead, and 4% TCP/IP overhead. Nothingto do with PPPoe.


grayfox

join:2007-12-10
Whitby, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

reply to Oinktastic
said by Oinktastic See Profile :

chronoss2009, your numbers are only correct if you have no overhead on your connection. Unfortunately, PPPoE suffers from the fact that it requires 15% overhead. Unless you've changed to cable or something else since you wrote your Teksavvy review, then you're suffering from the same overhead which reduces a 5Meg sync profile to a mere 530KB/s.

The Bell employee's numbers were closer to the truth than yours, unfortunately.
Most of the overhead is ATM (DSL is based off ATM) not pppoe. PPPOE's overhead only accounts for at most 5% of the overhead.

And chronoss2009 this isn't a scam its just how this technology works.

nigrunze

join:2009-02-14
Cote Saint-Luc, QC

reply to chronoss2009
said by chronoss2009 See Profile :

no truth is exactly what i wrote
the up to scam they pull is the very fabric of the main issues at bell
aka the lying the cheating and blatant fraud
Okay then. Try and get 24mbps download and 3mbps upload speeds from an ADSL2+ Annex M provider wherever it's available.

Download at speeds faster than 2550 KB/s and upload at speeds faster than 315 KB/s at a 24000/3000 synch rate. Let us know when you've done it.
said by Angelo_ See Profile :

anyone want to pass tin a tin foil hat?
That's not gonna happen.

If you want to ship it to him, then there's a very low chance of him giving out his address in any way shape or form.

He's not going to go to a dollar store to buy aluminum because it's probably part of a chain run by corporate shills or something along those lines.
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