aurgathor
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| 6x2 1/2", 6x2 3/4" or 6x3" drywall screws
Does anyone know a place that sells any of above screws at a reasonable price and quantity? (i.e. 100 or 500 pieces)
I did find the 6x2.5 at fastenal for 13.5 cents (  ) apiece, and all for cheap at »www.fastenersuperstore.com/pcode···ack-Phos, but the latter place only sells them by a carton (~3000 pcs) which is a little more than what I need.
I need the long screws because I'll have foam underneath the drywall, but I don't need the strength and hassle of #8. (the foam is very light).
BTW, how much of the screw is needed to be in the wood? In most places I'll have a 1" foam and 1/2" drywall on the walls, and 1.5" foam and 1/2" drywall on the ceiling.
And the bonus question: how much better is a drywall screw gun than a drywall bit? I'll be doing my master bedroom (13x14) and a walk in closet (5x14) in a week or two, but I eventually plan to redo another bedroom and a living room.
TIA
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phaqu
join:2005-05-26
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| Most fasteners are sold by weight. You can get 40-50 lb boxes of 3" for around 90-100 bucks ( last time I bought them). Home Depot sells 30 or 40 lb boxes. (Used to anyway) They also sell 10 lb boxes, which would be more in the ballpark with what youre doing.
1-1.5 inches in the stud or joist should do. So 2 1/2" or 3" will do. Make sure you dont have any pipes or wire run through that are close to the end of the studs. Hitting a supply line pipe with a screw sucks.
A drywall screw gun has a clutch that you adjust and stops the screw just under the paper on the rock automatically.
With a regular screw gun you need to pay attention to the screw as youre driving it so you dont go too far.
Anyway, if you have nothing else under the foam and you run rock on top of it, if you put pressure on the sheetrock, as in lean on it,the foam underneath will give causing the screws to pop. |
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nunya
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1.5" into the studs will help you find a lot of pipes and wires (the expensive way).
Normal 1/2" drywall is hung with 1-1/4" drywall screws.
Uniformity makes it easy for all the trades to keep their stuff from being "screwed" up.
Whatever your foam depth is, add 1-1/4" and that'll do.
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aurgathor
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HD also sells 1 lb and 5 lb boxes, but the issue with them is that they only have 8x2 1/2" and 8x3" of the lengths I would need.
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nunya
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Anyway, if you have nothing else under the foam and you run rock on top of it, if you put pressure on the sheetrock, as in lean on it,the foam underneath will give causing the screws to pop.
I've heard the same thing. Although I've never actually seen anybody put foam on the "inside", only the exterior or cavities.
What about your electrical boxes? You do realize they must extend past the foam, right? If there is a spark in a box that makes contact with the foam, bye-bye house. That foam burns quick and nasty.
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aurgathor
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| Putting the foam on the outside (mobile home) would be much more difficult than putting it on the inside. As a matter of fact, I did the same thing in my previous place, and aside from a few things that I didn't do exactly right (most of it should be corrected this time) it turned out to be a very smart move. After the "foam upgrade", a 300W torchlight and 2 computers would heat up my room (12x12) very nicely.
Anyhow. I currently have the studs showing in my master bedroom and walk in closet, so I know where everything is located, or will be located. (I'll also make some photos for myself for future reference)
And yes, the electrical boxes will be placed accordingly.
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nunya
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| While photos wont hurt anything, if it's down to the studs, the proper procedure would be to place "nail plates" over any pipes or wires you may potentially hit. It's very cheap insurance. Any plumbing or electrical supplier has them. I think even Lowe's Depot has them.
Curious, what type of boxes will you be using that will allow them to be set back that far securely? This is especially important since trailers burn so fast and deadly.
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aurgathor
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| said by nunya  :While photos wont hurt anything, if it's down to the studs, the proper procedure would be to place "nail plates" over any pipes or wires you may potentially hit. It's very cheap insurance. I actually have some, but I only use it when needed. 
Curious, what type of boxes will you be using that will allow them to be set back that far securely? This is especially important since trailers burn so fast and deadly.
There are adjustable plastic boxes around $.2.25 apiece, but my current plan is a regular (25 cents) box screwed to the stud through its side. I may take another look to see what's available in metal, and how I can use it.
As for my main question, after calling a few local places, I just broke down and mail ordered 22 lbs of 6 x 2 3/4 screws. Now I'm screwed for life. 
I'll most likely eBay/craigslist at least half of it, but if anyone wants some here before that, I should have at least 1 - 1.5k to spare.
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Candoo3
join:2005-01-24 | reply to aurgathor
From the best of my recollection, foam-board is a no-no on the interior of a house, even if covered by drywall. It should only be used on the exterior, and below grade. Just as I recall per our code here. |
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