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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

I think there is a place for it

While I dont think their whole distribution model should be based on physical media, there certainly is a place for it. People cant stream everywhere, and even when they can its not always practical. As mentioned, I think airports would be a GREAT place for this. Put one of these at each gate (or place where there are lots of gates) and I guarantee people will use it. Alternatively, people who use mobile devices to while traveling to work (other than ipods) could find this useful.

For in-home use this will fail, plain and simple. For other uses (as I noted above) however, I think people will be open to the idea.
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»www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html



BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

The people knocking this are stupid. Ok first of all not everyone has a broadband connection. I have friends that don't have internet because they can only get dial-up. I'm not sure why some of these "experts" don't realize that 20% of the US lives in areas where they can't get broadband. And of the other 80% not everyone wants or has internet. Or they have a slow connection. Sorry those on 1.5 Mbps or lower aren't streaming shit. Those between 1.5 and 3 Mbps aren't going to have a very pleasent straming experience. So that's over 1/3 of broadband users.

Oh and the DRM comment in the article, well DUH. Of coruse is has DRM. What you want to give people a movie for the price of a rental? I'm not sure what the big deal is about there being DRM. Only someone wanting to pirate the movies would care. That's kind of like bitching about having to return the DVD back to the store instead of getting to keep it. It's called a RENTAL for a reason.



MrMaster
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said by BF69:

The people knocking this are stupid. Ok first of all not everyone has a broadband connection. I have friends that don't have internet because they can only get dial-up. I'm not sure why some of these "experts" don't realize that 20% of the US lives in areas where they can't get broadband. And of the other 80% not everyone wants or has internet. Or they have a slow connection. Sorry those on 1.5 Mbps or lower aren't streaming shit. Those between 1.5 and 3 Mbps aren't going to have a very pleasent straming experience. So that's over 1/3 of broadband users.

Oh and the DRM comment in the article, well DUH. Of coruse is has DRM. What you want to give people a movie for the price of a rental? I'm not sure what the big deal is about there being DRM. Only someone wanting to pirate the movies would care. That's kind of like bitching about having to return the DVD back to the store instead of getting to keep it. It's called a RENTAL for a reason.
So, you willing to go and purchase this proprietary box to read the sd card? Plus make sure you have room for it in your entertainment system.
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AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

reply to wifi4milez
Redbox has the kiosk idea covered! We used Redbox often, even tho we have Netflix, until Netflix did streaming. Now we only use Redbox when we want a movie "now" and can't stream it.

The SD card idea is stupid. I will not buy a Blockbusted player, unless it has Internet access and can download to the SD card! But then, Netflix already has streaming, so why bother?



BF69
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join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to MrMaster

said by MrMaster:

said by BF69:

The people knocking this are stupid. Ok first of all not everyone has a broadband connection. I have friends that don't have internet because they can only get dial-up. I'm not sure why some of these "experts" don't realize that 20% of the US lives in areas where they can't get broadband. And of the other 80% not everyone wants or has internet. Or they have a slow connection. Sorry those on 1.5 Mbps or lower aren't streaming shit. Those between 1.5 and 3 Mbps aren't going to have a very pleasent straming experience. So that's over 1/3 of broadband users.

Oh and the DRM comment in the article, well DUH. Of coruse is has DRM. What you want to give people a movie for the price of a rental? I'm not sure what the big deal is about there being DRM. Only someone wanting to pirate the movies would care. That's kind of like bitching about having to return the DVD back to the store instead of getting to keep it. It's called a RENTAL for a reason.
So, you willing to go and purchase this proprietary box to read the sd card? Plus make sure you have room for it in your entertainment system.
Did I say that? I'm talking about the time when you can use any SD card and just use it on your computer or TV.

Once again if you don't have broadand then you have to rent DVDs right? Doesn't that require the purchase of some sort of "box"? As in a DVD player? Except DVDs you have to return and if the DVD gets damaged you have to pay full price for it. That is if you don't get one that is already scratched up which requires another trip back to the store to get a non damaged one.


BF69
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Camden, TN

reply to AstroBoy

said by AstroBoy:

Redbox has the kiosk idea covered! We used Redbox often, even tho we have Netflix, until Netflix did streaming. Now we only use Redbox when we want a movie "now" and can't stream it.

The SD card idea is stupid. I will not buy a Blockbusted player, unless it has Internet access and can download to the SD card! But then, Netflix already has streaming, so why bother?
You are required to bring back the DVDs from RedBox don't you?


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

reply to AstroBoy

said by AstroBoy:

Redbox has the kiosk idea covered! We used Redbox often, even tho we have Netflix, until Netflix did streaming. Now we only use Redbox when we want a movie "now" and can't stream it.

The SD card idea is stupid. I will not buy a Blockbusted player, unless it has Internet access and can download to the SD card! But then, Netflix already has streaming, so why bother?
I agree, and I think Blockbuster needs to rethink this idea. First, you dont need to buy the player; they give it to you. However, as pointed out thats kind of pointless. If I need to go to the store (instead of downloading) a movie on a SD card that requires a player is far more inconvenient than a DVD (which I can play on many devices). On the other hand, if they were to strictly launch this for "other" devices (phones, laptops, PMPs, etc.) then it would be a much better idea. As I mentioned before, if you could grab one of these movies at an airport and toss it into your phone there is value. On the flipside, driving to the store just to pick up an SD card instead of a DVD has no value.
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God bless America, God bless our troops, and God help us destroy the Islamic terrorists.

»www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html



BF69
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Camden, TN

said by wifi4milez:

[On the flipside, driving to the store just to pick up an SD card instead of a DVD has no value.
Sure it does, if you can use your own SD card then you don't have to return said card unlike a DVD which you have to return.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY

said by BF69:

said by wifi4milez:

[On the flipside, driving to the store just to pick up an SD card instead of a DVD has no value.
Sure it does, if you can use your own SD card then you don't have to return said card unlike a DVD which you have to return.
It still ties you to physically going to the store for each transaction, which is what this technology should be eliminating.
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»www.theadvocates.org/quizp/index.html


AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

reply to BF69

said by BF69:

You are required to bring back the DVDs from RedBox don't you?
Yes.

Yes, that is why I don't use the service much, 2 trips! I forgot about that. Streaming is the best way to go. DVD by mail is second best. Second best would be SD card with download option over the Internet. That would be really good, but not as good as streaming.

I assume you would need to return the SD card also. Maybe you can use your own card, I hope not. I would hope the kiosk has them pre-loaded and ready to go quickly. Otherwise, copying 2-4 GB of data to an SD card could take forever. I would not want to have to wait 4-8 minutes while it copies. That would suck big time!

4 minutes assuming 2GB at 10MB/sec.
8 minutes assuming 4GB at 10MB/sec.


aaronwt
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said by AstroBoy:

said by BF69:

You are required to bring back the DVDs from RedBox don't you?
Yes.

Yes, that is why I don't use the service much, 2 trips! I forgot about that. Streaming is the best way to go. DVD by mail is second best. Second best would be SD card with download option over the Internet. That would be really good, but not as good as streaming.

I assume you would need to return the SD card also. Maybe you can use your own card, I hope not. I would hope the kiosk has them pre-loaded and ready to go quickly. Otherwise, copying 2-4 GB of data to an SD card could take forever. I would not want to have to wait 4-8 minutes while it copies. That would suck big time!

4 minutes assuming 2GB at 10MB/sec.
8 minutes assuming 4GB at 10MB/sec.
Don't they have some new cards coming out that will cut that time down from minutes to seconds?

Desdinova
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD

reply to BF69
"Doesn't that require the purchase of some sort of "box"? As in a DVD player?"

Except as I understand it, it's a lot different from a regular card reader. If I had to buy a prioritized DVD player that would only play their content, then no, I wouldn't have one of those. If they can get their cards to run on any card reader, then that's a different situation. It just seems like they have to create a number of solutions to a number of obstacles, most of which probably don't need to be their in the first place.

If, however, the content you load onto the card could be keyed to an account and software on your playback device, then that might be a more workable approach. But special tech to make it function will almost certainly kill it.

Anyone remember Circuit City's DIVX fiasco?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX_(Digi···Express)


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