 VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | Good. This type of actions will probably work much better than bringing Grandma Jane to court for $500,000 and trying to make her out to be the face of piracy.
I am not saying I am FOR ISP's babysitting but I would rather this than the immediate suing |
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| Not really, pesonaly i will trash such letter. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
 ·Verizon FiOS
| said by silentlooker:Not really, pesonaly i will trash such letter. They actually send a letter and not an email? |
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| said by aaronwt:said by silentlooker:Not really, pesonaly i will trash such letter. They actually send a letter and not an email? I would think it be a letter, not everyone use their primary isp email |
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VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | reply to silentlooker
Maybe you would but most I know would probably stop
I wouldn't but I would certainly be a bit paranoid and be much more careful |
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You'd be surprised. Most ISP's will just send the complaint to the email of the listed person and be done with it. |
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said by Van:Maybe you would but most I know would probably stop I wouldn't but I would certainly be a bit paranoid and be much more careful I'm sorry but if you get "caught" in the first place then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. There are plenty of ways to share files and have low to no risk of getting "caught", what protocols do you think they are actively watching? Defiantly not HTTP. See what I did there? |
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 ReformCRTCSupport Your Independent ISP
join:2004-03-07
Canada | reply to Van
Well that's a different tone than Cary "Sue" Sherman, to be sure. |
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VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
I haven't the faintest clue and neither would anyone I know.
I, and most I know, simply download some songs here or there or maybe a movie every now and then. Nothing major
But if we got letters telling us to stop because we had been traced, it would effect me and most quite a bit. I would probably stop.
Of course most here wouldn't I am sure but for many in the general public, it would be a little nerve racking |
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| said by Van:I haven't the faintest clue and neither would anyone I know. I, and most I know, simply download some songs here or there or maybe a movie every now and then. Nothing major But if we got letters telling us to stop because we had been traced, it would effect me and most quite a bit. I would probably stop. Of course most here wouldn't I am sure but for many in the general public, it would be a little nerve racking Hint 1: »torrentfreak.com/mediadefender-e···-070915/
Hint 2: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaDefender
Hint 3: »blogcritics.org/scitech/article/···ent-war/
Let me re-ask the question.
What protocol do you think are they most interested in and have actually put up "traps" for pirates?
What protocol(s) do you think doesn't interest them as much?
Hint: The answer to the second question can be found in my first post.
If I made it any more obvious, then I would just point out places where you can get pirated material without getting caught :P.
In fact I know 2 people who used the mentioned protocol that they are watching, got the letter, and still do it.
Here's the catch though about the letters. How do you know it was something you were doing and not someone hijacking your wireless?  .
Many would argue that you are still responsible, but I would disagree. If you leave a gun out and someone uses it to kill someone, were you responsible for his actions (assuming of course you didn't put it out for him to kill someone with)? |
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VanPremium
join:2009-07-08
New Orleans, LA | As someone who goes to Court often, yes...someone could in fact be charged for a variety of crimes if they left out a gun and someone else used it to kill another (even without the pure intention of someone using it to kill another)...it of course depends on the circumstances of the exact case
So, I don't think that is a good example |
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| said by Van:As someone who goes to Court often, yes...someone could in fact be charged for a variety of crimes if they left out a gun and someone else used it to kill another (even without the pure intention of someone using it to kill another)...it of course depends on the circumstances of the exact case So, I don't think that is a good example Speaking loosely of course. The same argument could really be applied to anything, just replace gun with any instrument, kitchen knife, pencil, screwdriver...ect. Yes, you could argue that by me brining a pencil into class allowed a classmate to kill another, as he took it from my hands and stabbed another student. But, then we wouldn't be speaking loosely now would we?
One could even take a step further. Lets say a criminal was using a wifi service provided by lets say a coffee shop. And they do something illegal, is the coffee shop liable? They are liable to cooperate with authorities, but does the coffee shop have to pay any damages if they didn't know their wifi was being used for illicit purposes. In fact I am sure before you can connect you have to agree to a TOS saying you wont use it for illicit purposes. |
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 SikoPremium
join:2006-11-27
Mechanicsburg, PA | reply to aaronwt
I got my warning letter via the ISP's email. |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
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said by silentlooker:said by aaronwt:said by silentlooker:Not really, pesonaly i will trash such letter. They actually send a letter and not an email? I would think it be a letter, not everyone use their primary isp email I have an email addres listed as my contact. It is not a Verizon email address so I would think they would use a contact email address, otherwise what is a contact email address for. And it's certanly cheaper than sending a letter to everyone. |
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