| what is 3G really?? my understanding is (correct me if I'm wrong
Verizon AT&T
1RxTT = GMRS
Rev0 = EDGE
RevA = 3G
when I traveled with a CDMA phone I had rev0 most of the time until I got in a heavy populated area when I had 3G
so my question is "If my map is correct isn't Rev0 not really 3G??" and should there be a map for Rev0 vs RevA?
I also thinks its funny seeing that AT&T is having a bug fit about it while T-Mobile is quietly rolling out 21+?? |
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 dib22
join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO | more like 1xrtt = edge
EVDO rev0/reva = UMTS (3g in att speak) |
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 jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | said by dib22:more like 1xrtt = edge EVDO rev0/reva = UMTS (3g in att speak) In most of my testing, 1xRTT was faster than Edge. At least that was the case a few years ago when I was using both Sprint and AT&T devices between DC and New York. |
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said by dib22:more like 1xrtt = edge EVDO rev0/reva = UMTS (3g in att speak) I have never experienced 1xrtt speeds in the 200kbps range like I have with edge... |
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jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1
1 edit | It's max is/was 144kbps. I never got over 100kbps with Edge a few years back. I'm sure Edge has evolved a bit since the last time I was using it.
I think that Verizon does include 1xRTT when creating their coverage maps, and if they are not including AT&T's Edge service, which is theoretically faster, than I can see the problem that AT&T has with these advertisements.
Edit: I certainly don't miss those days. If I had to go back, I think I would miss losing high quality streaming Pandora more than anything else.
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 tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 | said by jmn1207:It's max is/was 144kbps. I never got over 100kbps with Edge a few years back. I'm sure Edge has evolved a bit since the last time I was using it. It hasn't changed. You were just using a crappy network.
Before St. Louis got T-Mobile 3g, I was easily able to stream imeem, last.fm and 128kbps shoutcast webradio on my G1 using EDGE...
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
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1xRTT is between GPRS and EDGE, closer to EDGE than GPRS.
EvDO is comparable to HSDPA
EvDO Rev. A is comparable to HSPA 3.6, if one carrier is deployed of each. However EvDO takes 1/4 the spectrum of HSPA so it'll probably have two carriers and still have room left over for 1xRTT voice.
HSPA+ 21 Mbps is faster than everything else. Download speeds are comparable to WiMAX, uploads are a good bit slower if both services' upload speeds are uncapped, though Clear WiMAX caps uploads at 1 Mbit so HSPA+ will be faster there. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
·RoadRunner Cable
·Comcast
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Comparing experiences, I like 1x better than EDGE, but that might just be me.
Also, various carriers' network quality varies on EDGE and (to a lesser extent) on 1x/EvDO. T-Mobile is quite good on GPRS/EDGE but meh on 3G until recently. AT&T is fast in uncongested areas on 3G, and has good EDGE service in some areas. Their roaming partners however may well have terrible data networks. For example, West Central Wireless (Texas cellular provider, local to back home) can't get even GPRS speeds over their EDGE network where I live. Their voice network rocks though, and they sound like they'll be fixing things and deploying 3G soonish. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to jmn1207
Also, I think that Verizon should push out a map showing 1x coverage vs. AT&T EDGE coverage. I'll bet 1x wins. |
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Rev0 is 3G. IIRc Rev0 is 2.1 Mbit and RevA is 3.1 Mbit (at least that is what the VZ rep said.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution-···ptimized |
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jmn1207Premium
join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA
kudos:1 | FYI:
1xRTT = 153.6 kbps up and down
1xRev 0 = 2.4 mbps down and 153.6 kbps up
1xRev A = 3.1 mbps down and 1.8 mbps up
In the US, both Verizon and Sprint have converted 100% of their 1xRev 0 coverage areas to 1xRev A. |
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Markie
join:2003-07-26
Kalispell, MT | reply to djhexer
GMRS = General Mobile Radio Service - aka walkie talkies.
CDMA2000 1xRTT is roughly equal to EDGE
CDMA2000 1xEVDO Rev. 0 is roughly equal to UMTS
CDMA2000 1xEVDO Rev. A is roughly equal to HSPA
EDGE is faster than 1xRTT, EVDO r0 is faster than UMTS, and HSPA is faster than EVDO rA. BUT in the real world network conditions will matter more than theory between those pairs of technologies. |
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