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gatorkram
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How many people want it?

I think a large part of the problem, is the disconnect between the people who WANT 100/100 and the people who don't realize how much our lives could change if they GOT 100/100.

Right now, we are a small minority, those of us who would be very happy to get 100/100 speeds. The disconnect comes when others would ask, what do you need those speeds for?

The real issue, is no one can really make the jump, and start offering services that would NEED 100/100.

If the broadband industry, were more like the gaming industry, where new games almost FORCE platform upgrades...

This is how I see it.
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jester121
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I have 100/100 in all the offices at work, and some even have gigabit. What's the big deal? Seriously, what am I missing?


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said by gatorkram:

I think a large part of the problem, is the disconnect between the people who WANT 100/100 and the people who don't realize how much our lives could change if they GOT 100/100.
Please. Enlighten us.


gatorkram
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said by jester121:

I have 100/100 in all the offices at work, and some even have gigabit. What's the big deal? Seriously, what am I missing?
I seriously doubt you have gigE WAN connections out to the internet.

And....

There is a big difference between having those types of speeds at work, vs having them at home.

If you don't know what you are missing, then I guess you are part of the crowed who has no desire for higher speeds.

If we all had 100/100 connections at home, the types of services that could be offered, are almost unlimited. Tons of different types of entertainment, like tv shows, movies, interactive games, interactive communications, the list could go on and on.

The root of the thing is this, until we HAVE the connections, we won't really KNOW what might be thought up by someone..
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gatorkram
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said by Romney2012:

said by gatorkram:

I think a large part of the problem, is the disconnect between the people who WANT 100/100 and the people who don't realize how much our lives could change if they GOT 100/100.
Please. Enlighten us.
Use your imagination...

This is the problem right now, we are so limited with what we know we can do now, with the very limited speeds we have, that we dare not dream what could be possible if we had virtually unlimited speeds..
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jester121
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said by gatorkram:

If we all had 100/100 connections at home, the types of services that could be offered, are almost unlimited. Tons of different types of entertainment, like tv shows,
Got it.
said by gatorkram:

movies,
Got it.
said by gatorkram:

interactive games,
Got it.
said by gatorkram:

interactive communications,
Got it.
said by gatorkram:

the list could go on and on.
It does? It seems like it gets to 4 and then stops. I don't need 100Mbps, or even 50. Standard Comcast does just fine.

I'm not saying we won't have it some day, and it will be great I'm sure, but it's certainly not a travesty.


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Games, Movies, Video Chat, TV, Music, and many other things (as if those things weren't big enough in itself)

As someone with 1/20th of 100mpbs, I would die for such a connection as I can't get them with what I have....takes too long



gatorkram
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It's hard to dream about things you don't know about...

Just one example, that comes to mind, for me...

Ever watch the news? When they have an interview, and both people can see each other in real time, and have perfectly flawless interactions..

Right now, we can't even come close to that.

Now add 5 more people..

10?

15?

Maybe you have no desire to do this, but you have to agree it would be cool if you could.
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jester121
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said by gatorkram:

Maybe you have no desire to do this, but you have to agree it would be cool if you could.
They do it on those cheesy Cisco commercials, so it must be widely available and easy!


gatorkram
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said by jester121:

said by gatorkram:

Maybe you have no desire to do this, but you have to agree it would be cool if you could.
They do it on those cheesy Cisco commercials, so it must be widely available and easy!
Yeah, if you have the bandwidth to do it.

Those commercials, are marketed towards business, to cut down on having to fly all over the place to get things done.

The connections are obviously available, but not to the average home user.

In a business district, you could have gigE speeds if you had the money to get it. Heck, even an OC3 is 155mbits

Even aiming for 100/100 at home, is really slow, considering what technology is out there. We have had 100/100 LAN connections in the home for as far back as I can remember.

What this country really needs, is a not-for-profit last mile provider.

This is the kind of project, that just needs tons of money tossed at it, without worrying when it will turn a profit.

This is the kind of project, that should be compared to when we built all the high ways around the country. We didn't really need them then, but we sure do now.
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massysett

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quote:
If we all had 100/100 connections at home, the types of services that could be offered, are almost unlimited. Tons of different types of entertainment, like tv shows, movies, interactive games, interactive communications, the list could go on and on.
OK. Apparently they all have those connections in Hong Kong. So what services are being offered in Hong Kong that are not offered here?


gatorkram
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said by massysett:

quote:
If we all had 100/100 connections at home, the types of services that could be offered, are almost unlimited. Tons of different types of entertainment, like tv shows, movies, interactive games, interactive communications, the list could go on and on.
OK. Apparently they all have those connections in Hong Kong. So what services are being offered in Hong Kong that are not offered here?
No idea. I am sure someone could find out if they wanted.

Look at cell phones in Japan. They do things with them, people in the US don't even think about. I see stories about it all the time.
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massysett

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They do things with them, people in the US don't even think about. I see stories about it all the time.
Like what?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_m···_culture

View YouTube videos? VZ Droid can do that. Navigation by GPS? That too. Email? Wow.

Just as I thought. People sitting around whining about broadband speeds really have no idea why anyone should sink enormous amounts of money into getting everyone 100 Mbps broadband. I will now go back to doing all the things that I find perfectly doable with my dreadfully slow, pathetic broadband.

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said by jester121:

I don't need 100Mbps, or even 50. Standard Comcast does just fine.
But I want that content NOW! not 6 hours from now. I want the internet to be as fast as my HD.


gatorkram
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Almost everything people do today, with their entertainment, is static. The entertainment has already been produced, and is force fed to us.

Why would any of those companies, producing this static entertainment want you or me to be able to do the same thing?

What if we could do it even better? What if we could do it in real time, and have real interactivity?

I don't know how else to wake you up. If you can't see the potential then my words sure aren't going to wake you up to it.

What is your favorite tv show? Why isn't it interactive? Why don't they produce it live, and in real time?

What is your favorite kind of music? What is your favorite band? Wouldn't it be cool, if they could just put on a concert whenever they wished, and deliver it all over the world, in real time, and what if you could interact with them, and anyone else watching, in real time, video, audio, whatever..

Think about what we do today, for entertainment, and why.

Then think about how it could be different, if everyone with a computer, and a decent webcam could be all making their own entertainment for world wide consumption. Not static, but fully interactive, and in realtime..

Open your mind, and dream.
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patcat88

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said by gatorkram:

Even aiming for 100/100 at home, is really slow, considering what technology is out there. We have had 100/100 LAN connections in the home for as far back as I can remember.

What this country really needs, is a not-for-profit last mile provider.

This is the kind of project, that just needs tons of money tossed at it, without worrying when it will turn a profit.

This is the kind of project, that should be compared to when we built all the high ways around the country. We didn't really need them then, but we sure do now.
Utilities should never be for profit businesses. Imagine if a hospital was a real for-profit business. First 2 days on ventilator $200 a day. Days 2-5 $300 a day, Days 5-14 $1000, days 14-60 $1800 a day. Don't pay? termination time, literally.

But the above doesn't work because of the insurance company and hospital relationship.

Imagine if the power company was able to raise rates however high it wants with zero oversight by the PUC. Remember the power company can use the health/building department to condemn any house without electricity as "unfit for human habitation". Do you have a choice to pay the pied piper now?

Imagine if all roads were toll roads. You can't get off your property without money unless you accept their "traffic financing" plan with 69.99% APR.

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said by patcat88:

Imagine if a hospital was a real for-profit business. First 2 days on ventilator $200 a day. Days 2-5 $300 a day, Days 5-14 $1000, days 14-60 $1800 a day. Don't pay? termination time, literally.
Bad example. Most are real for-profit businesses and they do make health decisions based on cost.

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said by massysett:

Like what?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_m···_culture

View YouTube videos? VZ Droid can do that. Navigation by GPS? That too. Email? Wow.
Only starting now in 2009. Japan was doing that in 2005.

asian 7 megapixel cameraphone by samsung in 2005

»images.trustedreviews.com/images···hone.jpg

Why don't I see anything close in the USA? In 2009 5 megapixel is bleeding edge. Pathetic.


gatorkram
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said by patcat88:

said by massysett:

Like what?

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_m···_culture

View YouTube videos? VZ Droid can do that. Navigation by GPS? That too. Email? Wow.
Only starting now in 2009. Japan was doing that in 2005.

asian 7 megapixel cameraphone by samsung in 2005

»images.trustedreviews.com/images···hone.jpg

Why don't I see anything close in the USA? In 2009 5 megapixel is bleeding edge. Pathetic.
The mobile market is another whole thing. It suffers much of the same limitations as the home market though.

You could make all the same arguments though, as to why we need more, and the same people would say we don't need it.
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said by patcat88:

Why don't I see anything close in the USA? In 2009 5 megapixel is bleeding edge. Pathetic.
Because you didn't look? They are there unless you are trying to make an invalid point.

8 megapixel
»www.google.com/products?q=cell+p···=en&aq=f
»www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=n···=10&y=18

10 megapixel
»www.google.com/products?q=cell+p···=en&aq=f
»www.babikenshop.com/ferrari-f1-r···adfe3c6c

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