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Smokey Bear
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New flash attack has no real 'fix': 'everyone is vulnerable'

Dark Reading | nov 12, 2009

Researchers have discovered a new attack that exploits the way browsers operate with Adobe Flash -- and there's no simple patch for it.

The attack can occur on Websites that accept user-generated content -- anything from Webmail to social networking sites. An attacker basically takes advantage of the fact that a Flash object can be loaded as content onto a site and then can execute malware from that site to infect and steal information from visitors who view that content by clicking it.

"Everyone is vulnerable to this, and there's nothing anyone can do to fix it by themselves," says Michael Murray, CSO for Foreground Security, which today posted demonstrations of such an attack against Gmail, SquirrelMail, and cPanel's File Manager. "We're hoping to get a message out to IT adminstrators and CIOs to start fixing their sites one at a time."

An attacker could upload malicious code via a Flash file attachment or an image, for instance, and infect any user that clicks on that item to view it. "If I can trick a system to let me upload anything, I can run code in any browser, and Adobe can't fix this," Murray says. "If I can upload a picture to a site and append it with Flash code to make it look like an image, once a user views that, the code executes and I can steal your cookies and credentials."

The only thing close to a "fix" is for the Website to move its user-generated content to a different server, according to Michael Bailey, the senior researcher for Foreground Security who discovered the attack.

Bailey says the attack is similar to a cross-site scripting attack. "This is very easy to perform," he says.

The researchers don't expect Adobe to issue any fixes to Flash's origin policy, mainly because it would affect so many applications.

Web application developers could help prevent the attack by denying Flash content by default, which isn't a very realistic option: "Doing that will break a lot of applications," Bailey says. "And that's the problem."

For end users, the Firefox browser add-in NoScript provides some protection from this attack, as does Toggle Flash for Internet Explorer, the researchers say.
»www.darkreading.com/security/sho···21700036
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Wonderful.

That's yet another reason to use "flashblock" with firefox, and to login as a limited user.

Thanks for posting.
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said by nwrickert See Profile :

Wonderful.

That's yet another reason to use "flashblock" with firefox, and to login as a limited user.

Thanks for posting.
Im using NoScript with FF. NoScript has flash blocking.
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There are ways to block this exploit even in internet explorer.........without any add-on-------simply enable "automatic prompting of file downloads".....................an the User will be given a notice before any file is downloaded......an can accept or denied the download.

There are yet other ways to block this Exploit but I wont get into those at this time.


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Good ol' NoScript and Flashblock comes in handy once again.

I haven't been a big fan of flash anyhow, since it's used in obnoxious ads and other content. Many websites use it to trash up their pages with content from multiple sources.

Maybe this will trigger some changes.
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Never heard of Toggle Flash before for IE. Will give it a try.

»flash.melameth.com/


Smokey Bear
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Original flash vulnerability disclosure/extended info: »www.foregroundsecurity.com/flash···ues.html


anon

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How to block/disable flash in Opera browser?!?


Smokey Bear
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said by anon :

How to block/disable flash in Opera browser?!?
Opera 8-10: »my.opera.com/Lex1/blog/flashbloc···-opera-9


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Thanks for this, Smokey Bear See Profile scary stuff, again


Smokey Bear
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As usual, you're welcome sil

Zyniker
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OS X...and blocking Flash. None too concerned.

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Good article. Not so good exploit. Thanks.

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Sad people have to gimp their Internet experience to protect themselves. "Yea, I'm safe, all I had to do is disable this, this and this..." Might as well use telnet in the future.


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Not so good exploit.
Flash = Crash?


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said by DarkSithPro See Profile :

Sad people have to gimp their Internet experience to protect themselves. "Yea, I'm safe, all I had to do is disable this, this and this..." Might as well use telnet in the future.
We'll just go back to the dark ages and head in with Gopher, dumb terminals, and maybe toss in some ansi while we're at it.

To me it sounds like we're just about hitting the point where vendors and browsers need to sit down and redesign together for interoperability with proper sandboxing functions, but that's just me.


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Does this mean viewing pictures with flash code embedded in them as well?

"If I can upload a picture to a site and append it with Flash code to make it look like an image, once a user views that, the code executes and I can steal your cookies and credentials."
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How to block/disable flash in Opera browser?!?
Besides Smokey Bear See Profile's suggestion, you can also simply kill all plug-ins via F12 > uncheck "Enable Plug-ins". I've got a 'main' tool-bar button that also allows me to do this.
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Smokey Bear
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said by Blackbird See Profile :

said by anon :

How to block/disable flash in Opera browser?!?
Besides Smokey Bear See Profile's suggestion, you can also simply kill all plug-ins via F12 > uncheck "Enable Plug-ins". I've got a 'main' tool-bar button that also allows me to do this.
Correct, but I didn't post that 'fix' because all the plugins that *don’t* cause problems are also disabled...
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