 kapilThe Kapil
join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL | Why do people keep buying Verizon Wireless? Really. Why?
Horrible pricing. The double super horrible $350 ETF for "advanced" devices. Terrible device line up and what few shining rays of hope they have in that line up, they've locked down mercilessly.
There are many other choices, all of them better than VZW - Sprint being the best of the bunch and also the one who is most similar to VZW
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1 edit | I buy them because unfortunately they have the best service (albeit still full of holes) in my area. I don't care about the ETF, since I have no intention of changing providers. They have the best phones, imo. And I can get around any locking down they try to do with community hacks.
In my case they are the lesser of all evils.  |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD | reply to kapil
said by kapil:Horrible pricing. Their prices are in-line with most other major cell phone companies.
said by kapil:The double super horrible $350 ETF for "advanced" devices. A purely optional fee that most users can avoid if they simply use their brains.
said by kapil:Terrible device line up and what few shining rays of hope they have in that line up, they've locked down mercilessly. 99% of cell phone users couldn't care less about locked devices. It isn't like they are going to buy phones from Verizon Wireless and take them to Sprint. I would dare say that since Verizon Wireless has so many customers, that the device selection and locking issues are not factors in a purchase decision.
And I am posting this as an AT&T subscriber.
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 cbrigante2Cubs 20??Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL | said by pnh102:said by kapil:Horrible pricing. Their prices are in-line with most other major cell phone companies. said by kapil:The double super horrible $350 ETF for "advanced" devices. A purely optional fee that most users can avoid if they simply use their brains. said by kapil:Terrible device line up and what few shining rays of hope they have in that line up, they've locked down mercilessly. 99% of cell phone users couldn't care less about locked devices. It isn't like they are going to buy phones from Verizon Wireless and take them to Sprint. I would dare say that since Verizon Wireless has so many customers, that the device selection and locking issues are not factors in a purchase decision. And I am posting this as an AT&T subscriber. I would venture to say that the 1% of users that actually do care about locked devices are commenting on a Verizon news story early in the morning on BBR!  |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:said by kapil:The double super horrible $350 ETF for "advanced" devices. A purely optional fee that most users can avoid if they simply use their brains. The $350 ETF has yet to appear. We just migrated 3 x AT&T lines last week and the standard $175 ETF applied to all of them. That's $50 less than the AT&T ETF.
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 GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
join:2001-09-30
Santa Rosa, CA
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| said by Matt:said by pnh102:said by kapil:The double super horrible $350 ETF for "advanced" devices. A purely optional fee that most users can avoid if they simply use their brains. The $350 ETF has yet to appear. We just migrated 3 x AT&T lines last week and the standard $175 ETF applied to all of them. That's $50 less than the AT&T ETF. It went live as of last night.
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to pnh102
said by pnh102:said by kapil:Terrible device line up and what few shining rays of hope they have in that line up, they've locked down mercilessly. 99% of cell phone users couldn't care less about locked devices. It isn't like they are going to buy phones from Verizon Wireless and take them to Sprint. I would dare say that since Verizon Wireless has so many customers, that the device selection and locking issues are not factors in a purchase decision. And I am posting this as an AT&T subscriber. Most phones are fashion wise obsolete before your contract expires anyways. Who wants to use a 2 year old phone?
note: my phone was released in 2005, best phone ever I think, had to replace it twice from ebay because of damage, I don't think I'll ever upgrade to a newer model, its also one of the last phone ever made with a pull out antenna |
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It just went into effect on Sunday so you would have switched just in time. |
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But they have the best Android phone!
Actually I'm torn - Verizon doesn't have service in our area, only US Cellular serves us. Verizon roams on US Cellular here, but not for EVDO. And Verizon has their phones set to switch to US Cellular only when the signal is completely gone - you can have a strong US Cellular signal and a weak Verizon signal that keeps cutting out and you'll stay connected to the poor Verizon signal.
Sprint just doesn't cover our area. AT&T and T Mobile don't either and they don't do 3G anywhere near here where they do have coverage.
US Cellular roams on Verizon, but not EVDO. And they don't seem to roam on Verizon everywhere. And their support is not great.
Even with the poor coverage in our area, lack of EVDO and being more expensive service I'm still tempted by Verizon, I can get better coverage when traveling, I can get better EVDO coverage when traveling, and I can get an Android phone.
But then there are rumors of US Cellular getting an Android phone next year... |
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX | reply to NeoandGeo
GSM has the best phones. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by r81984:GSM has the best phones. That's a completely subjective opinion.
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said by NeoandGeo:...In my case they are the lesser of all evils. Have to agree on that. The mountains where I live/work block certain providers depending on where you're standing. I can go on one end of a town and get Verizon, the other end Sprint. Down the Interstate AT&T works but the others don't. However, overall, VZ has the least amount of holes. |
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skurfa
join:2006-03-10
Yorktown, VA | reply to kapil
I can't speak for other areas of the country, but here, in Southeast Virgina, the answer is because Verizon simply has WAY better coverage than anyone else. This coming from a Sprint user by the way, I hate VZW enough to suffer through the poorer coverage, as it's good enough most of the time. Is it annoying though to watch all the people walking through the grocery stores and any big box stores talking away on their VZW phones, when Sprint MIGHT get you a call without dropping if you stay near the front windows.
So, you can pay Verizon a little more and use your phone wherever you want or you can use another carrier, save some bucks but deal with 2nd rate coverage. In my circle of acquaintances its over 90% Verizon as far as carriers go. |
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said by patcat88:Most phones are fashion wise obsolete before your contract expires anyways. Who wants to use a 2 year old phone? note: my phone was released in 2005, best phone ever I think, had to replace it twice from ebay because of damage, I don't think I'll ever upgrade to a newer model, its also one of the last phone ever made with a pull out antenna I'm confused -- you ask who wants to use a 2 year old "fashion obselete" phone, then explain how you're using a 4 year old model? |
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The $350 ETF has yet to appear. We just migrated 3 x AT&T lines last week and the standard $175 ETF applied to all of them. That's $50 less than the AT&T ETF.
That's a crock, AT&T's ETF starts at $175 and declines by $5/month. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by Couch Potato:The $350 ETF has yet to appear. We just migrated 3 x AT&T lines last week and the standard $175 ETF applied to all of them. That's $50 less than the AT&T ETF.
That's a crock, AT&T's ETF starts at $175 and declines by $5/month. When I called last week, I was told the ETF was $225 and that's why I still owed $155 or so per phone. Of course, all my phones had different ETF rates yet we signed them all up on the same family plan at the same time, so who really knows.
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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | reply to jester121
said by jester121:said by patcat88:Most phones are fashion wise obsolete before your contract expires anyways. Who wants to use a 2 year old phone? note: my phone was released in 2005, best phone ever I think, had to replace it twice from ebay because of damage, I don't think I'll ever upgrade to a newer model, its also one of the last phone ever made with a pull out antenna I'm confused -- you ask who wants to use a 2 year old "fashion obselete" phone, then explain how you're using a 4 year old model? It's more commentary on a non-trivial percentage of cellphone users than the poster's own outlook on things? Seems pretty straightforward.
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nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | reply to skurfa
said by skurfa:I can't speak for other areas of the country, but here, in Southeast Virgina, the answer is because Verizon simply has WAY better coverage than anyone else. Same for most of Northern VA. In fact, I can use my VZW phone on the Metro System and through the tunnels in the area. Can't say the same for the other carriers as only VZW bothered to put cell coverage into those areas.
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I can use my VZW phone on the Metro System and through the tunnels in the area. Can't say the same for the other carriers as only VZW bothered to put cell coverage into those areas.
That's because WMATA won't open up the exclusive contract they signed with Verizon (or Bell Atlantic - it goes back that far) and allow anyone else to wire the tunnels. I'm sure AT&T, T-Mobile, and Nextel would love to wire the Metro tunnels.
It's the ONLY sore sport WRT my AT&T coverage. The rest of it works as it should. In my Experience, VZW is highly overrated.
I also think if the Droid takes off like the iPhones have VZW will also have just as many issues as AT&T. |
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