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Re: Frivolous Lawsuit said by pnh102:AT&T should be made to pay Verizon's legal fees. This lawsuit is completely and totally without any merit. Have you seen the commercial with the elves? "Good luck browsing the web with that one", they say while looking at an AT&T device. It's a blatant lie, designed to make people think only Verizon can deliver the internet to your wireless device.
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| said by footballdude:said by pnh102:AT&T should be made to pay Verizon's legal fees. This lawsuit is completely and totally without any merit. Have you seen the commercial with the elves? "Good luck browsing the web with that one", they say while looking at an AT&T device. It's a blatant lie, designed to make people think only Verizon can deliver the internet to your wireless device. Does the lawsuit have anything to do with that particular ad? Was the infamous 3G map in the commercial? |
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Have you seen the commercial with the elves? "Good luck browsing the web with that one", they say while looking at an AT&T device. It's a blatant lie, designed to make people think only Verizon can deliver the internet to your wireless device. I spent the other night eating at a french restaurant, in full view of the George Washington Bridge, unable to browse the Internet because AT&T's network couldn't handle it. In certain markets, that claim is perfectly true. Fix the problems. |
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to footballdude
said by footballdude:Have you seen the commercial with the elves? "Good luck browsing the web with that one", they say while looking at an AT&T device. It's a blatant lie, designed to make people think only Verizon can deliver the internet to your wireless device. I've seen all of the ads. I'm also an AT&T subscriber. However, I do not have data service on any of our phones.
But I have to respectfully disagree that the "Good luck browsing the web with that one" claim is a "blatant lie." AT&T's iPhone problems are well documented facts. But to be fair to AT&T, I can't say I know anything about any network issues with AT&T's other smart phones.
But the resolution to this is clear. AT&T needs to grab some shovels and build out more 3G service. Now.
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said by Karl Bode  I spent the other night eating at a french restaurant, in full view of the George Washington Bridge, unable to browse the Internet because AT&T's network couldn't handle it. In certain markets, that claim is perfectly true. Fix the problems.
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said by Karl Bode:Have you seen the commercial with the elves? "Good luck browsing the web with that one", they say while looking at an AT&T device. It's a blatant lie, designed to make people think only Verizon can deliver the internet to your wireless device. I spent the other night eating at a french restaurant, in full view of the George Washington Bridge, unable to browse the Internet because AT&T's network couldn't handle it. In certain markets, that claim is perfectly true. Fix the problems. I recently flew from North Carolina to Utah with 2 x iPhones and a Verizon Data Card. Even on layovers in larger cities like Dallas, Verizon had coverage and worked flawlessly while our iPhones sputtered along, dropping calls and pulling up webpages at a glacial speed.
I think AT&T's savior from these complaints is going to be 850MHz.
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said by NOCTech75:Does the lawsuit have anything to do with that particular ad? Was the infamous 3G map in the commercial? Yes
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Last time I was in an area covered by the "red" map but not the "blue" map, AT&T's 2G speeds were faster than Verizon's 3G speeds. Does the map account for that? |
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said by footballdude:Have you seen the commercial with the elves? "Good luck browsing the web with that one", they say while looking at an AT&T device. It's a blatant lie, designed to make people think only Verizon can deliver the internet to your wireless device. There are many areas where EDGE on AT&T is effectively 0 kbps. I've run speed tests in some places where my DL and/or UL speed was 0.
AT&T should be spending their money on upgrades. It is really, really sad that they didn't seem to care much until people started to speak out about how poor their data services really are.
Even Google Maps is painful on EDGE at times. I don't doubt that their 3G is stellar in many places, but if you aren't in one of those places (and you probably aren't!), you are SOL.
Using AT&T logic, if you provide the most super ridiculously fast data speeds in just one city, you have "the world's most super ridiculously fast service." I'm glad Verizon struck a nerve. The truth really does hurt sometimes.
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kudos:12 | said by RRedline:Even Google Maps is painful on EDGE at times. I don't doubt that their 3G is stellar in many places, but if you aren't in one of those places (and you probably aren't!), you are SOL. That is a very good way to expose whether your area is overloaded or not. Load up Google Maps on your iPhone w/ GPS enabled and tell it to follow you while driving down the interstate. Half the time the maps will load quite speedily, but the other half (especially on Edge) they simply never will.
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said by vincebusam:Last time I was in an area covered by the "red" map but not the "blue" map, AT&T's 2G speeds were faster than Verizon's 3G speeds. Does the map account for that? That is the exception and not the norm. We already know that AT&T provides the best service in many areas. The point is that they provide HORRIBLE service in a large portion of the country while they advertise that they have the fastest and best 3G network. That claim is true only if you cherry-pick the few areas where they are on top of their network.
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kudos:12 | said by RRedline:said by vincebusam:Last time I was in an area covered by the "red" map but not the "blue" map, AT&T's 2G speeds were faster than Verizon's 3G speeds. Does the map account for that? That is the exception and not the norm. We already know that AT&T provides the best service in many areas. The point is that they provide HORRIBLE service in a large portion of the country while they advertise that they have the fastest and best 3G network. That claim is true only if you cherry-pick the few areas where they are on top of their network. He is in Southern California, which has the 850MHz overlay, thus isn't subject to the capacity issues the rest of the country is. So you are correct, he is the exception, not the norm.
If you look at posts like his, most people who say they have good AT&T service and subpar Verizon service tend to be in Southern California or one of the few areas that have had the 850MHz spectrum turned on.
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Yup, well, its only 50 lines... its better for them to have a customer leave than to have a continuously P.O.'d customer, IMO.
I have AT&T service in CA that works, but I don't have an iPhone.
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Do you think that is worse than the more bars everywhere ads like this one? If you based your opinions on these ads, you would think that AT&T is the only carrier that works indoors. For example:
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said by cdru:said by NOCTech75:Does the lawsuit have anything to do with that particular ad? Was the infamous 3G map in the commercial? Yes (youtube clip) If the 3G coverage maps are accurate, I don't see any problem with the Verizon commercials.
I'm a former AT&T customer who migrated to Sprint. My prior use of the AT&T internet network was EDGE and it was awful compared to the 3G on Sprint. If AT&T thinks EDGE is great internet coverage, they are IMO sadly mistaken.
The maps clearly indicate 3G internet coverage, and the comments by the elves are about internet coverage. Nothing appears misleading in the commercials to me. They are about internet 3G coverage.
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| said by cdru:AT&T's complaint is that they feel that Verizon is telling customers that they won't have data coverage or be able to make calls in the non-blue areas. Yes the fine print says otherwise, but Verizon is playing up with the collective ignorance of the public that doesn't know the difference between GPRS, Edge, 3G or LTE. Yes because AT&T never does any of that with their advertising. 
Commercial with the elves is legit, that has been shown to be true in court. AT&T should resolve their issues, not try to smash them down as if they don't exist. |
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I agree, even in non 3G area or 3G turned off it's still pretty fast. Vzw needs to stop trying to pretend att has less coverage.
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