 Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | Town to photograph EVERY car that enters and leaves CNet News | November 19, 2009
Tiburon, Calif., is a twee little place. If you aren't familiar with the old-country colloquialism "twee," it means, well, something like "precious." Like one of those dogs Paris Hilton used to carry in her purse.
How can one, therefore, be surprised that a meeting of the Tiburon Town Council voted on Wednesday by 4 to 0 to install cameras to photograph every single car that enters or leaves this little Disneyland?
The San Francisco Chronicle reported that this may be the first community in the country to have defended itself with cameras in such a way. The idea is to photograph the license plates of every car that treads Tiburon's hallowed roads and compare the information with the police's list of the stolen and nefarious.
The Tiburon police chief, Michael Cronin, told the Chronicle: "I think it makes the community safer."
There are certainly even more definitions of the word "safety" than of the word "twee." However, it is heartwarming that the Tiburon police--inspired, perhaps, by Google--promise that the information will be kept for only 30 days.
I know there will be some who believe you can never have enough security cameras in this heinous and half-witted world. But perhaps some will worry that the police might make rather instinctive judgments about the provenance of certain cars and their intentions.
Others will wonder whether this decision might affect businesses in Tiburon. Still others will ponder whether the police might be willing to offer a Web site showing the movements of all its officers.
I merely wonder how many people, knowing they might have to go to Tiburon for a meal of organic Kobe beef, rosemary ice cream, and plenty of Stags Leap cabernet, will choose to remove their front license plates. You know, just to be on the safe side. »news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10402181-71.html -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Official Jetico Inc. Support Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/ |
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| I've seen a few cops shows from the UK where they deploy ANPR (automatic number plate recognition). They will set cameras up on overpasses that cross busy motorways and look for people without insurance, no road tax, etc. How is this system any different from something like that? |
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 Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | reply to Smokey Bear The USA isn't the UK... Besides, is there any city in the UK that is doing the same like Tiburon, Calif, USA, photograph every car that enters and leave? |
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 | reply to Smokey Bear I believe the small jurisdictions of Hypoluxo Island has been doing this for quite some time. |
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 jaykaykay4 Ever YoungPremium,MVM join:2000-04-13 Scottsdale, AZ kudos:19 | reply to Smokey Bear Sadly, Tiburon might be the first of many to follow. "Half- witted" sounds more like this idea than an explanation of the world. Unfortunately, it might turn out to be a good idea. |
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| reply to Smokey Bear There are plenty of things to buy to avoid this for the criminals. Only "regular" people will have theirs taken. I wonder what the cost to the taxpayer will be? »www.google.com/search?q=avoid+tr···irefox-a |
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| reply to jaykaykay said by jaykaykay:. . it might turn out to be a good idea. How so?
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quote: The strange thing is that Tiburon, a northern suburb of San Francisco, isn't exactly Oakland. It doesn't enjoy high crime figures. Indeed, some might say that the most criminal elements in the place are to be seen on the racks of its clothes stores.
Little to no crime. So this then smacks of pure nosiness, intrusiveness, and tracking merely for the sake of tracking. The comings and goings of citizens marked at each entry to or exit from the town. Why? There's no crime to speak of, so what's the purpose?
quote: The Tiburon police chief, Michael Cronin, told the Chronicle: "I think it makes the community safer."
Yeah, right. Makes it easier to keep track of citizens is what it does. Again, why? |
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1 edit | reply to Smokey Bear You don't understand, Tiburon is an enclave of wealthy citizens, but predates "gated" communities. Their police believe screening the license plates will deter crime, but this may only work if the criminals return with the same vehicles after crimes have been committed and are matched to those vehicles. So the police will then be able to report the criminals were using stolen cars to get there...  |
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 | reply to Smokey Bear Jupiter Island Florida has been doing this for quite some time. Every single car off and on the island gets the ALPR treatment. They all display on a large LCD in dispatch and any potential "hits" immediately alert the island PD. |
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 Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | reply to Unknown_P said by Unknown_P :
Yeah, right. Makes it easier to keep track of citizens is what it does. Again, why? Because these obsessed freaks pursue total control, the same is valid for governments. -- Smokey's Security Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/forums/ Smokey's Security Weblog »smokeys.wordpress.com/ Official Jetico Inc. Support Forums »www.smokey-services.eu/ |
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 DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | reply to nokiatech Ah, California. |
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 CylonRedPremium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | reply to dandelion Most of the license plate covers and all fo the license sprays do not work at all. |
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 SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | reply to Smokey Bear They've been doing that in Ocean Ridge, FL for years now. |
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 drjimPremium,MVM join:2000-06-13 Long Beach, CA kudos:3 | reply to Smokey Bear Can I see your papers? |
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| reply to dandelion I am pretty sure that Mythbusters disproved, more or less, all ways of avoiding license plate cameras short of removing the plate entirely.
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 WarzauPremium join:2000-10-26 Naperville, IL kudos:1 | reply to drjim
said by drjim:Can I see your papers? Don't you mean
I am here to help you. Relax. You have nothing to fear. I am here.
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 drjimPremium,MVM join:2000-06-13 Long Beach, CA kudos:3 | Take two blue pills.... |
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 quatrixPremium join:2005-02-11 Davie, FL kudos:2 | reply to CylonRed said by CylonRed:Most of the license plate covers and all fo the license sprays do not work at all. That should be common sense. If our eyes can see it then so can a camera. |
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 | reply to Smokey Bear New cars got no plate, so it will not help them against those that have a new car  |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium join:2003-07-20 Jamestown, NC kudos:12 | reply to Smokey Bear I can understand why some people who be upset about this, but I'm all for using technology to make communities safer. Of course, I've been burglarized and the people were never caught so I have a slightly different perspective. -- trafficcloak.com - pptp/sstp vpn services |
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