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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:05:05 EDT

Treebark posted : Went back to Boomkin a few days ago and joined a new guild. The guild only raids 2 nights a week, which is very cool and prior to Cata they were a very progressive guild. They seem much more casual now that is cool with me. They were only 5-8 as of last night. We killed ship and spine last night. Was pretty easy as I have only killed these two on raid finder. Boomkin 2ps is very freaking nice. I cannot wait until I get my 2 piece.

I also looted the dps trinket off of spine last night. Finally got to replace may darkmoon card. So I am using the Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor off of Rag and Will of Unbinding off of Spine. I have yet to test it but I assume that these two together are better than having one of them and my darkmoon card.

I have not look at numbers in a while, but Boomkins seem to be sitting pretty good. Ran FL's this weekend, I was one of 3 pugs and outgeared by all the dps and kept up with them and finish 1st on Rag with 21k before the two new trinkets. I know that is not great, but there is a lot of movement on that fight.

Is anyone using the VP trinket for dps, if so, would that be better than one of the 2 I am using?

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:16:56 EDT

Rhenai posted : Immergruen started a very good resto druid line here

»[Classes] Cataclysm Resto Druid

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:56:48 EDT

Treebark posted : Kind of depends on your gear lvl for what stats to push. And your spec can basically go one or two ways depending on the content you are in. But, I have been out of the game for little over a month and someone else who is still HoTing it up maybe able to give you some better advice.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:31:43 EDT

bckck5 posted : pulled my old druid out of mothballs to try out some healing which I have never done before.
got him up to 85 and doing heroics now, good lord is it easy to gear now.
anyways, any tips for noob druid healer?

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 15:16:16 EDT

JoelC707 posted : Ahhhh OK that makes a bit more sense now. I figured there had to be something I was missing. Probably part of it was me not having played feral in a long time lol.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:12:33 EDT

anon posted : You are misreading the 4 piece feral bonus. Yes it enables you to use the feral charge talent which also give you a free ravage. So its basically and free ravege everytime you use tigers fury. Ravage is one of your hardest hitting abilites and has like a 90% crit chance if the boss is above 50% i believe.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:36:19 EDT

JoelC707 posted : Oh yeah I can see the value in both but I still think a dash/sprint on a burn ability seems situational at best. The burn sections of madness for example, short of hoping to other platforms quicker after the burn phase is the only benefit I can see. That or an encounter where the boss is physically moving to a trigger point and you have to down him before then (I recall an encounter like that but don't remember what instance it was).

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:31:58 EDT

JB posted : 4pc feral for both specs is really good. bear is situational but is highly valuable on a fight like morchok and madness. kitty is a pretty nice dps increase and with planning a solid raid cooldown.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:28:37 EDT

JoelC707 posted : Yeah I saw the 4 piece bonus for both resto and boomkin and went WTF? Those are pretty crappy bonuses. The resto one MIGHT have some benefit in very limited situations but because those are often the culprit of overhealing, this will likely just push us into further overhealing on most cases.

Hell even the feral 4 piece doesn't look that good and I haven't played feral since I was high enough level to get boomkin form (30s or something). Frenzied Regenration now affects all raid and party members but have to be in bearform for more than 15 sec which leaves this to the bears only (unless you wanna wait around for 15 sec and do nothing lol). It could be helpful for bears yes but that's about it.

Kitty basically gets feral charge macro'd for free to tiger's fury, a frenzy type ability. Big deal. Unless the mob is moving when you need to be in a burn phase what good is this?

DK's get a similar 4 piece (they're the only other class I play). Tank piece gets "vampiric blood now affects your party/raid for 50% of the effect it has on you" which is one of a DK's health CDs. Sounds like they're trying to get the tanks to help out healers this patch. I suspect we'd find similar 4 piece bonuses on paladin and warrior tanks.

DPS DKs get a 25%/40% chance to proc 710 mastery for 12 seconds. I guess that's not too bad but still seems a little meh to me. Mastery is second best secondary stat for a DW Frost DK (VERY close to haste still) and I think best secondary for 2h unholy but I haven't played that in a while.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:14:52 EDT

Immer posted : Roll feral. It's not nearly as complex as it was at the end of Wrath. Their set bonus is a little more useful than resto. (but restos are really strong atm... they don't need a ZOMG 4piece this round).

Feral tanking takes a bit more effort than say, a pally/dk, but can be slightly easier to heal than warrior/dk. So, give it a shot.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:09:04 EDT

anon posted : now trying to decide*

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:08:30 EDT

anon posted : Hey guys. After finishing my resto set, i am not trying to decide which direction to go with a few of my tier pieces since the resto 4 piece is at least surface level pretty terrible. Just wanted to get some advice on what you guys think, i have a lot of casters but if boomkin pumps out pretty decent numbers i would give it a try. I dont see a lot of feral kitties anymore and know next to nothing about feral tanking (i am open to learning since rolling as a bear seems pretty badass). Just wanted to see where you all thought that these toons stacked up against their competition in their respective categories.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:44:32 EDT

cymraeg posted : idk about dk tanking at end game stuff , cause i couldnt do it even at ramps that tanking style is not for me, and im man enough to admit that i sucked at it, pally has always been faceroll tanking to me ive always been very good at it, warrior was challenging at times, particularly in wrath heroics, POS ramp to the ice corridor what a big pain in the ass, but i have yet to take a bear to end game so i was wanting to do something different, just wanted to say thanks for the tips and experience youve learned guys
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:32:49 EDT

Treebark posted : I agree with you. I have dabbled with Pally,DK, and Warrior tanking. A druid has to work more than any other class when there are a lot of mobs.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:30:07 EDT

CpnObvious posted : Oh, there are certainly methodologies to mitigate the problem. But they're nowhere near as intuitive or easy as spamming a couple blood boils, mashing hammer a few times, or just shockwaving some mobs and telling them to hang out for a second while you get things sorted out.

Bear tanking has some distinct advantages compared to the other tanking types, but the tools for constant-add-arrival handling aren't very robust compared to the other tanking classes, particularly pallies and DKs.

Edit: This particularly shows up in Emerald, where mobs between moonbeams have 90 percent DR. Tab-mauling is pretty much the only way to hold threat as a bear if your healer is being injudicious between beams, which can lead to problems if the number of adds significantly exceeds 2. FF is completely useless. :(

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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:48:05 EDT

mettachain posted :

said by Treebark:

I think if druid tanks are having problems with loose adds from times, they are forgetting about FF. They just charge in there and and thrash and swipe. FF is your friend, does good dmg and good threat. I used the shit out of bash and skull bash when I tanked too.

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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:16:16 EDT

Treebark posted : I think if druid tanks are having problems with loose adds from times, they are forgetting about FF. They just charge in there and and thrash and swipe. FF is your friend, does good dmg and good threat. I used the shit out of bash and skull bash when I tanked too.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:03:38 EDT

stvnbrs posted : don't forget about the glyphed Maul with tab targeting. If you have the rage, this will help fill in the open spots between the thrash and swipe.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:57:56 EDT

cymraeg posted : ya all the cats comin from outta nowhere, i can see that being a problem.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:54:03 EDT

CpnObvious posted : Kitty GCD is base 1 second.

Caster GCD starts at 1.5, but is lowered by haste (down to a minimum of one second.)

Bear CD... 1.5 and ain't ever gettin' lower!

The biggest problem I have with bear tanking is if you're getting adds strung out over time instead of in clumps. The CD on swipe and thrash can make picking up a staggered arrival of multiple mobs pretty damn interesting. The place that's the most relevant in current content is Emerald Dragonshrine in End Time.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:59:32 EDT

cymraeg posted : the gcd is slower i have noticed, just going from kitty to bear, and i just put one point into the rage regen from crit talent, not sure the name atm, but i am a bit rage starved at this level.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:26:37 EDT

Treebark posted : The hardest thing for me going from playing Resto and Boomkin for so long then going to tanking was the global cool down. So much slower than healing or caster dps. I always felt I was not doing/moving enough or attacking fast enough. Might not be the same for others, but took me some getting used to. Once I got used to that it was pretty simple with the guidance that I read from this site and talking to other druids about stats, rotation, spec ect.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:53:39 EDT

JB posted : lol yup, demo roar. throw lacerate around if you have it, im sorry with all the talent reworks theyve done i dont have a clue what talents you have, use FF often too, especially if you have enough talent points for the 1 ff = 3 stacks applied
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:48:00 EDT

cymraeg posted : thanks JB dont have those talents yet he is a new bear he is only level 22 i think i hit last night
so he has swipe but do i use it on cd or mangle and tab , and i cant remember if maul puts a bleed on or not, by roar do you mean demo roar for dam redux? cause i do that wife was like turn that down i cant hear with all that roaring it was funny the way she said it.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:34:28 EDT

JB posted : ummm, for aoe tanking? not sure what talents you have

thrash + swipe on cd, keep roar up, ummm mangle on cd, thats about it, use tidy plates and mangle low threat targets (if there are any)
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:11:40 EDT

cymraeg posted : wanted to try tanking on a new bear, did a couple runs DM and RFC, but now feeling a little anxiety about it, dont know why but on this guy i think its shield departum depression or something, gonna run around in bear form and pick up mobs in the world and practice aoe some maybe that will help. any tips for me ?
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:11:39 EDT

CpnObvious posted :

said by JB:

Agreed, I managed to almost push 30k DPS on Madness this week ;)

/wave

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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:36:18 EDT

JB posted : Agreed, I managed to almost push 30k DPS on Madness this week ;)

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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:30:25 EDT

Threatco posted : We are 2 tanking it including my self. I am pretty much just cat dps except to soak the 2nd impale and tank a big add in p2. So the other tank aggro's the bloods.

We have actualy killed the corruption before the 2nd impale but it's a very near thing. I may 1 tank it next weak since my moonkin set now has Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Wrath >:-D

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:41:02 EDT

CpnObvious posted : Are you two-tanking madness? Or taking the blood melees in cat?
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:33:02 EDT

Threatco posted :

said by CpnObvious:

Agreed that Madness is a good place for a feral to make money. In p1 you only tank Corruptions (and not for very long), and bloods (which is actually a dps gain over cat form if 'zerk is up.)

And, as H-Nef proved, "damage bonus" fights disproportionately favor rip.

Slightly off-topic question- how much shred uptime can you maintain on Madness?

I haven't done logs this patch. But I would imagine it's almost 98%. The only time it's not up is when starting on a new limb.

I keep shred up the whole time on the platform, I only taunt right before my impale and they take it back within seconds. And I keep it up in p2 as the add I tank dies within seconds.

On regenerating oozes I keep my cat buff/debuff up on the limb and I cat form swipe spam the oozes. I find it's more dps to zerk the oozes in cat form then bear form, even with full vig.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 29 Dec 2011 14:56:37 EDT

mettachain posted :

said by CpnObvious:

So boomie numbers will look great, but I'd sacrifice those great numbers for a combat rogue or frost DK or another spec with short, powerful cooldowns that will pull lower overall numbers.

LOL. Yeah I'd take the lower numbers too. Only because I feel sorry for those poor saps who get hated on all the time.....
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:13:39 EDT

CpnObvious posted : Agreed that Madness is a good place for a feral to make money. In p1 you only tank Corruptions (and not for very long), and bloods (which is actually a dps gain over cat form if 'zerk is up.)

And, as H-Nef proved, "damage bonus" fights disproportionately favor rip.

Slightly off-topic question- how much shred uptime can you maintain on Madness?
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:19:48 EDT

stvnbrs posted :

said by Threatco:

TL;DR Feral tanks should learn to use cat form to up their dps.

You are 100% correct on this. I do suggest that bears ensure that they understand bear FIRST, before complicating things with kitty. Added DPS is added DPS and done right will help. Kitties are squishy though and a misplaced boss swipe or aggro pull will mean a dead tank. Ensure RL is cool with this before beginning to try.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:56:31 EDT

Threatco posted : Cpn I think we are looking at different charts.

In bleeding edge H25 kills is not the best spot to see bear median dps.

A bear tank can tank with all the same buffs/gear/talents as a pure dps cat. .'. Bear tanks "CAN" do as much dps as other dps. Minus the amount of time they have to tank is the only thing lowering their dps.

Avg dps-dps is of course not FotM dps specs, feral is never going to be as good as sub or mages this tier. But compred to the rest of the middle of the pack, we can pull 50k dps too.

Anyways I will back off the assertion that bear tank dps is most often the "same as other dpsers" but my point is it may be closer then some people think, because it's often underused or underplayed.

Case example: On Madness normal in my 10 man guild My best dpsers end with 52k and my worst end with 45k. I am at 45-47k. And that's not even ideal as I am busy calling out everything and I am the last one single targeting limb-tentacles.

Maybe my teams dpsers suck. Maybe this fight is more favored to ferals. But I get fairly close results on all fights that I am not tanking more then 30% of the time.

As a result of my DPS being often 15-20k higher then what any other tank is capable of we have been able to get kills a lot easier. While people are still doing lower dps because of learning the dance mechanics, we still beat enrage, thanks to feral tank going cat.

Steveburns I wasn't directing any of this or my last post at you.

TL;DR Feral tanks should learn to use cat form to up their dps.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:18:32 EDT

Threatco posted : It could be important for several reasons.

The most obvious are Enrage timers and burn phases.

The less obvious is healers mana, the longer a fight lasts, the more your healers need to save their mana, the less safe the group is as they cast long efficent heals instead of flash heals.

The third and more debatable is that it makes things go faster which is valueble in it's self. Questing, 5 mans, raids, all go faster the higher your dps is, and ppl generaly want to get their loot and go. Taking a bear who won't use cat to maximise dps output is similar to taking a combat rogue who doesen't use slice and dice. It's not "important" in either case "most of the time". But one is more expected then the other, because of misunderstanding.

Maybe you say it's not important because a tank is not a significant portion of the damage. I'd disagree. Forget 5 mans where we are always on top and how well we do has a huge effect on the speed of the run.

If all Ilvls are the same, a feral tank played properly will be within 90-100% of the dps of other proplerly played dps, in all types of raids, for most fights. While all other 3 tanks are closer to 70-80%. Still important to them, but a bit less so.

If you are able to do as much damage as the other dps effectivly, and you are filling your roll as an ungibbable tank effectivly, then your dps is just as important as everyone elses.

If you want to say tank damage is not important I would say it's only not important when no one's dps is important. Which is trivial content, or content your not trying to clear as quickly.

Id like to hear you elaborate more on why bear tank DPS "It is almost never important."

In the grand scheme of all important things. Not dieing, healing enough, and doing enough damage are always the top 3.

Even knowing when to tranq as feral is important. Just because you get away with not doing it does not change that.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:59:13 EDT

drew posted : >Or misunderstandings like thinking that tank dps is not important

It is almost never important.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:28:24 EDT

Threatco posted : It's not just hard modes. For anyone who wants to play correctly, as in play with in reasonably expected skill levels, to best advance their team in any setting. Does not matter if it's LFR normal hardmodes 10, 25, 5s, questing, world pvp or arena even. Being able to use all your abilities as they are meant to be used applies to everyone of all classes. Feral druids just happen to be the most complicated, and there for most misunderstood of them all.

Misunderstandings like thinking that the loss of rage and or tank AP or savage roar makes it not worth switching.

Or misunderstandings like thinking that there is not that many opportunities for a tank to go cat.

Or misunderstandings like thinking that tank dps is not important or helpful.

Or misunderstandings like thinking that doing this correctly could still end up with a higher chance of you dieing.

You perpetuated all of these misunderstandings and so I had to call you on it. It's not personal I'm not a troll I want everyone here to like me :)

But I have also seen your posts on gemming and other topics which are much more straight forward with information readily and accuratly available on dozens of websites, that you got totaly and inexcusably wrong.

So when I say your advice, while valid, is not credible, I don't mean any offence,

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Tue, 27 Dec 2011 07:52:48 EDT

stvnbrs posted :

said by Threatco:

said by stvnbrs:

said by Threatco:

Please people. Don't gear up for bear and while refusing to use cat.

A bear that does not go cat is like a warrior that does not use his mobility.

Sure you could stand there and just tank. But bears are expected to go cat, pop berserk, and knock out 80k single target dps over 30 seconds.

??? The only time I would like to see a bear go kitty is if there is some sort of elongated burn phase with no tank swap. A typical bear spec will forgo many of the talents required to pull out that mad dps you are talking about. Add the fact that swapping back to bear means that you start back with 0 rage and you compound the problems, also, if there is a freak accident, a dead kitty can spell a wipe, where a lower dps tank really shouldn't make or break the fight. Just my opinion, definitely pop bear as kitty though if tank goes down, sometimes that is just enough to get a brez on the tank and continue the fight.

Stvnbrs you are so wrong it makes me sick. What kind of raiding do you do? Have you ever gotten all heroics in a raid down before the next tier came out?

Almost everything I have ever seen you post is way off, but I can't hold my silence any longer. Provide your sources sir and I will show you mine.

I am sure you just have not seen a good feral before, and that is why you insist that hybrid tanks are inviable.

Go check out the Feral tanks that top end progression guilds are using, you will find they do spec/gear for hybrid, and if you check parses on DPS, you will see why. Every single fight can use one, though how nessacary the advantages are varies.

Hybrid tanks are viable, in the case of druids, they are probably the most versatile in that regard. However, I doubt there are many druid tanks on this board looking for help that are knocking out heroics in the sense you are talking about. The druids that are 6/8 or 8/8 HM really don't need any advice.

For those looking to get into raiding, start tanking, I still think my points are valid. Get good at tanking first, then add kitty. It seems as though you only care to see posts from those 8/8 HM, which I am not. I have not pulled down an entire tier of hard modes before the patch came out. I have however, played as a druid for a while, and have seen many mistakes made. For kitty dps, I can hold my own, bears, I have been wrong (gemming, JB, yes I get it.)

As far as end-game specs that progression guilds use, I can not find a druid that has done a drastic spec to provide the benefits you say. Vengeance stacks will provide a huge boost to tanks to provide increased dps, but I would love to see a spec as you say.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:50:02 EDT

Threatco posted :

said by stvnbrs:

said by Threatco:

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:31:58 EDT

mdas posted : Okie...we will not gear up for bear,let's see if it works out

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:00:17 EDT

stvnbrs posted :

said by Threatco:

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:47:18 EDT

Threatco posted : Please people. Don't gear up for bear and while refusing to use cat.

A bear that does not go cat is like a warrior that does not use his mobility.

Sure you could stand there and just tank. But bears are expected to go cat, pop berserk, and knock out 80k single target dps over 30 seconds.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:18:36 EDT

puppy posted : OK I got into the first two fights of LFR as kitty. Just mangle did not seem to do enough damage so I tried some sort of button spam to make sure all the bleeds are up and whatnot... I ended up doing about 14k dps... and that's #4 to #8 spot on the damage chart... I won the shoulder off the first boss, yay, but I left at 3rd because there's no way the raid can down the slimes fast enough with overall dps that poor :P

I reforged my gear this morning using the new ask mr robot (yar I know some people says it sucks but what other better choices are there?) for hybrid spec, so it has more expertise and whatnot. I figure I'm okay tanking the new heroics and not tanking LFR, so this would be a better choice.

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:18:36 EDT

puppy posted : I'll throw in a rake or something and everyone is happy ^_^

Yar I won't be kitty as a main. I'm not good on melee overall and kitty is even more complex than what I can handle. I just want bear tanking gear... and hope to get that big butt staff... !

Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:15:11 EDT

stvnbrs posted :

said by cymraeg:

ya stvn dont take me as an elite kitty, he was wanting to prowl through LFR and that will do for what he wants to accomplish, and i have FFF macroed with Fcharge, just enough time for tank to hit target before i unleash with ravage and start rotation. so if puppy wants to get through it he will be middle of the pack on the meteres and still roll on gear.

What makes me sad is that, many kitties believe that what you described was the correct way to play the class. That reasoning is exacerbated when leveling, since that is what you need to do to kill things without a tank. I liked kitty dps rotation in Wrath before ICC. Mangle was a 12 second debuff, and SR increased all damage by 30%. That made 2 additional "must keep up" abilities to juggle instead of the current mode. Not to mention, the more FB you got in, the higher your DPS got, now FB does very little, to the point that it is not so important till it begins to refresh rip.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:09:24 EDT

cymraeg posted : ya stvn dont take me as an elite kitty, he was wanting to prowl through LFR and that will do for what he wants to accomplish, and i have FFF macroed with Fcharge, just enough time for tank to hit target before i unleash with ravage and start rotation. so if puppy wants to get through it he will be middle of the pack on the meteres and still roll on gear.
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Re: [ Classes] Druid Thread

Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:58:46 EDT

Immer posted : there, there... it's only true if you are trying to "fit into" the dps pack... not too high, not too low...