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gigahurtz
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2009-Nov-23 11:36 am
As an AT&T customer..I think this is a complete joke. You cannot surf/talk with EDGE and most of the country falls in that category. My city finally got 3G a few months ago and it's great, but the coverage isn't all that great. If it wasn't for the iPhone, I would switch from AT&T sooner rather than later. |
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said by gigahurtz:I think this is a complete joke. You cannot surf/talk with EDGE and most of the country falls in that category. But not the most population... there is a difference of how much area you cover versus how much population you cover. Neither AT&T nor Verizon's map shows it... Let's also be fair: AT&T does need to get their network together; they need to expend their 3G coverage and 3G capacity; etc. etc. My city finally got 3G a few months ago and it's great, but the coverage isn't all that great. If it wasn't for the iPhone, I would switch from AT&T sooner rather than later.
That I am with you: iPhone needs to be put on more networks. |
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 kenn10
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kenn10
Member
2009-Nov-23 4:46 pm
Try a Motorola Droid or HTC Eris on Verizon and you might change your mind about the iPhone. I did.
I'm surprised no one ever mentions how crappy voice quality is on GSM vs. CDMA. I think GSM is where the term "it sounds like you're on a cell phone" came from.... |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
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en102
Member
2009-Nov-23 5:21 pm
I think that's with GSM (2g) on AMR-half rate codec. I would agree with you on that (garbled).
GSM on EFR or AMR-full rate is close to land line quality, and IMO, better than that of CDMA.
3G UMTS vs. CDMA ... not much of difference. I've found CDMA EVRC codec to have a more digitized/robotic sound , and to some extent, very aggressive DTX cutting out sound at the end of or start of speech. |
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 r81984Fair and Balanced
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Katy, TX
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said by tokevino:That I am with you: iPhone needs to be put on more networks. That is not ATT's fault. Your have to blame your idol stevie jobs for that. He is the one that hated on all the nonATT users. |
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 Robert
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Robert
Premium Member
2009-Nov-24 7:42 am
said by r81984:said by tokevino:That I am with you: iPhone needs to be put on more networks. That is not ATT's fault. Your have to blame your idol stevie jobs for that. He is the one that hated on all the nonATT users. Wrong. He went to VZW and other providers and they laughed him out. Then he went to AT&T and AT&T decided to carry the iPhone, but wanted the exclusivity contract. It's neither AT&T or Steve Job's fault. It's the other U.S. carriers that rejected them. If Steve Jobs really hated "nonATT users", as you say, then there wouldn't by any iPhones in foreign countries. Get your facts straight. |
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r81984Fair and Balanced
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r81984
Premium Member
2009-Nov-24 7:56 am
Stevie Jobs wanted the exclusivity, they could have created the phone for CDMA and GSM. They did not even need a contract to do it, but Apple wanted to ensure money with very little liability so they made a deal with a carrier.
Only person to blame is Stevie Jobs. |
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Robert
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Robert
Premium Member
2009-Nov-24 7:59 am
Again, you are wrong. AT&T wouldn't take the iPhone unless they had an exclusive contract. They were taking a gamble with the iPhone and wanted to make sure that they could at least make back something.
They would have created a CDMA phone if VZW accepted to take the iPhone. And now VZW wishes they took the iPhone.
You make no sense. iPhone is carried in 70+ countries, with hundreds of carriers. This has nothing to do with little liability. |
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r81984Fair and Balanced
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r81984
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2009-Nov-24 8:03 am
Stevie Jobs did not have to make a contract with a carrier and they did not have to agree to any exclusivity.
Stevie Jobs chose money over allowing all their fanboys to buy the iphone. You are acting like ATT forced Apple into a contract.
The only person you have to blame for no CDMA iphone is Stevie. |
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Robert
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Robert
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2009-Nov-24 8:17 am
Since other carriers refused to carry the iPhone, he had to make a contract. Which worked out for both AT&T and iPhone.
You clearly are just trolling ("Stevie"). So this discussion is over. You're wrong, and make no sense. |
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r81984Fair and Balanced
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r81984
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2009-Nov-24 8:56 am
Verizon did not refuse to carry the iphone. They refused to do it in a way that would cause them to lose money.
Verizon basically said no because "Apple’s desire to get a cut of subscription fees and to control how and where phones could be sold."
It is funny how fanboys will blame anyone but Stevie Jobs. He is the reason why there is no CDMA phone. It has nothing to do with the carriers. |
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gigahurtz
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2009-Nov-24 10:22 am
said by r81984:Verizon did not refuse to carry the iphone. They refused to do it in a way that would cause them to lose money. Verizon basically said no because "Apple’s desire to get a cut of subscription fees and to control how and where phones could be sold." It is funny how fanboys will blame anyone but Stevie Jobs. He is the reason why there is no CDMA phone. It has nothing to do with the carriers. This "fan boy" act is wearing thin. Go play with your outdated, slow and incredibly boring WM phone and get off of here! |
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r81984Fair and Balanced
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r81984
Premium Member
2009-Nov-24 10:30 am
I have a phone with an actual keyboard.
Nokia E70
Although windows mobile would be great to have on a cell phone. The iphone is only good if hacked, but there is no way to make up for the its lack of a keyboard.
I agree the fanboy act is wearing thin. It is about time the apple fanboys start following the facts and stop over paying for hardware. |
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said by r81984:I have a phone with an actual keyboard. Nokia E70 Although windows mobile would be great to have on a cell phone. The iphone is only good if hacked, but there is no way to make up for the its lack of a keyboard. I agree the fanboy act is wearing thin. It is about time the apple fanboys start following the facts and stop over paying for hardware. Overpaying? I got my iPhone 3G for $99. It's the cheapest smart phone I have ever bought. |
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Hold on i need to hang up to look up the information, i'll call you right back because evdo 3G has serious limitations and a very low top speed that isn't planned on being upped. No thanks. When i talk to someone on my iPhone, if i'm holding it to my ear it sounds like a regular landline, if i put on the included headset, it sounds like i'm standing 6 inches from the person hearing every tone of every letter they pronounce while talking to me as if i'm in a one on one conversation with a person inside my head. Have that, will keep.  - A |
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gigahurtz
Premium Member
2009-Nov-25 11:24 am
said by FastiBook:Hold on i need to hang up to look up the information, i'll call you right back because evdo 3G has serious limitations and a very low top speed that isn't planned on being upped. No thanks. When i talk to someone on my iPhone, if i'm holding it to my ear it sounds like a regular landline, if i put on the included headset, it sounds like i'm standing 6 inches from the person hearing every tone of every letter they pronounce while talking to me as if i'm in a one on one conversation with a person inside my head. Have that, will keep. - A I must say, I can't complain about AT&T's call quality. I have had no problems at all with that on my iPhone. |
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