 bn1221 join:2009-04-29 Cortland, NY | reply to PGHammer
Re: I agree.. And you pay 29.99 a month for data on the Blackberry. VZ won't activate even a retail bought BB without the data fee. Thats a real scam RIM and VZ get you on. |
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| said by bn1221:And you pay 29.99 a month for data on the Blackberry. VZ won't activate even a retail bought BB without the data fee. Thats a real scam RIM and VZ get you on. Why do most folks buy a smartphone (any smartphone)? For data usage. Considering that VZW also has pay-as-you-use data plans, this also prevents anyone using a smartphone without a real need (don't other providers do the same thing with their smartphones, including AT&T Mobility with the iPhone?).
You want a smartphone; however, you don't want the provider making ANYTHING off you using the smartphone's features (most of which, more often than not, require that you use the provider's network). I don't have major data needs; however, when I DO use the provider of choice's network (since I have said quite plainly that VZW suits my needs/requirements in terms of voice, data, AND smartphone choice options), I most certainly expect to have to pay for using VZW's network. However, I have three different options even with VZW (since my data needs are miniscule):
1. Per-month data billing. 2. Daily when-I-need-it data billing. 3. Byte-allowance billing.
Considering that I would almost certainly prefer a smartphone with wifi (and VZW now offers several), and my biggest smartphone use would be sync with a desktop or portable PC, I would most likely choose options #2 or #3, since I am not one of those that uses a smartphone as a PC substitute! |
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| reply to bn1221 Since you are complaining, here are current prices for VZW's wifi-ready BlackBerry smartphones (including the "infamous" $29.99 MONTHLY data plan):
Curve 8530: $99.99 Tour 9630: $149.99 Storm2 9550: $179.99
Monthly charges:
Nationwide Connect (450 plan minutes + 5 F&F + unlimited nights/weekends + unlimited VZW-to-VZW): $59.99 Unlimited E-Mail and Web for BlackBerry: $29.99
Note that is $89.98 for my second-worst monthly plan choice, as I don't need another e-mail address (however, one is generally included with any smartphone, so you're stuck with it whether you want one or not). Unlimited Web *is* included (however, I'm not one to download videos, even viral ones, and especially NOT to a smartphone).
What's the beef?
Because both e-mail *and* Web are included, I can deal with weblinks included in mail.
I can live with this. |
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 bn1221 join:2009-04-29 Cortland, NY | reply to PGHammer Sorry - you missed what I was saying. I have a ton of 8830s that I want to give away so people can use the full text keyboard for texting. Verizon will not let me put a voice and text plan on it unless I pay for the data as well. I don't need data on them. |
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 bn1221 join:2009-04-29 Cortland, NY | reply to PGHammer I am not complaining of the subsidy. What I as saying is I have many BBs purchased at FULL PRICE retail. I cannot use them as basic phones. That's my complain. I'm actually FOR Verizon subsiding and using ETFs |
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| reply to bn1221 So your complaint is that you can't usde a smartphone as a dumbphone (you got attracted because the smartphone is cheaper than the dumbphone), without realizing that there is going to be a *gotcha* in there somewhere. In what way is that VZW's fault?
If you are still stuck with one or more of those 8830s, PM me and we can exchange information (I'm a VZW customer, and have nary a quibble paying for a data plan that I would actually use). |
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 bn1221 join:2009-04-29 Cortland, NY | My complaint is I upgraded to Curve - which are awesome. The 8830 is a great phone but I cannot just give them a way as dumbphones. It just seems odd to me that an off contract phone cannot have a downgraded plan. I'm PMing you my info if you really want an 8830  |
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