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Neosum
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reply to N3OGH

Re: Extending exclusivity with AT&T a huge mistake

said by N3OGH:

Extending exclusivity with AT&T would be a huge mistake for Apple. Everyone who is willing to put up with AT&T's half baked network all ready has an iPhone. A lot of those people are sick of crappy service. Three of my friends have iPhones and all of them said it makes a great iPod touch, but a lousy phone.

If Apple decides to stick with AT&T as an exclusive partner, it's only a matter of time before the iPhone is seen more as an innovative product of it's time, and less as the current thing to have.

If Apple sticks with AT&T exclusivity, they loose the tremendous buzz they could generate by making the iPhone available on other carriers. Shit, skip Verizon and offer it just to other GSM carriers if you need to.

People want a choice, and Apple can only suck so many uber fans into the latest whiz bang gadget when that wonderful piece of technology lacks the infrastructure to support it.

It's like buying a cigarette boat when you live 1,000 miles away from the water. What's the point?
The point is that there ARE millions of people who DO live near water and will enjoy their cigarette boat.

The iphone and att works well for me. I've heard complaints from others in the same area saying that the service sucks (and usually from people who don't even have att) but I don't experience that same poor service.

Many iphone users including myself will continue to purchase new ones as they're release. We then sell our old ones on ebay or craigslist and draw in someone new who wanted an iphone but didn't want the contract. This doesn't mean we're stupid or closed minded. It simply means we've found a device we like and enjoy using. Plain and simple. Any comments otherwise are just ignorant.

I'm not currently tied to att, but I won't switch to another carrier unless the grass is really greener on the other side. It's gonna take more than more 3g coverage nationwide and a droid to convince me to switch. I notice that there are more anti-att comments on this forum and I really don't blame anyone for them. Get something that works for you and be happy with it. Otherwise, switch.

I'm happy with my product/service and have no need to switch. I'm sure many others feel the same, otherwise iphone sales would be declining each summer and not rising. Opinions will say one or two things, but actual market sales will say another.


N3OGH
Yo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
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No one called you closed minded or ignorant.

Sure, there are plenty of people the iPhone works just fine for. I had this very discussion concerning the iPhone with a friend and his girlfriend. He loves his iPhone, but he hates AT&T. This is something I hear echoed and echoed over and over again. Great device, crappy service. He would jump in a heartbeat if he could get his iPhone on a different carrier. He's not tech savvy enough to jail break it and the like.

"Any comments otherwise are just ignorant."

It is blanket statements just like these that ARE the height of ignorance in and of themselves.

I'm a fan. A fan of good products, at reasonable prices that offer consumer choice, and good service.

I'm typing this post on a Mac Mini less than 3 months old, with a used MBP within a meter of my location. I love Apple hardware. Awesome products. But I'm not buying an iPhone on AT&T. Too many people have had too many issues.

Recently, I was assigned to spec, bid, order, and configure $10,000 worth of client/server equipment for the Municipality I work for. Sure, I would have LOVED to plunk Macs down as workstations. But the reality is, our software runs in a Windows environment. Plus, as a Municipality we get the State contract price on our gear from a well known supplier of PC equipment (Dell).

They went out of their way to bring us in under budget. I was impressed with what we got for $10K.

We've had the gear a few weeks now. I got everything up and running with help from the folks in the Microsoft forum (thanks guys). I did have some problems Saturday night with an unexpected server shutdown. I called Dell, and they had TWO techs assigned to my issue. A primary, and a secondary to cover when the primary was off. Both contacted me directly to ensure the issue was resolved. To say the least, I was impressed.

I literally love the iPhone, and I have an iPod Touch. My sister has an iPhone 2 GS ( a rip off of the IIGS name, IMHO) but in my position my phone is close to being a mission critical piece of equipment.

In my part of the world (NE corridor) that means having a Verizon cell phone. I know a lot of people will knock this post for saying that, but from DC to Boston, no one can beat Verizon. Period.

If/when the iPhone comes to Verizon, I'll be happy to line up. Until then, oh well. I'll live with my BlackBerry Storm with the 5.0 software.

Apple can't afford to maintain exclusivity with AT&T, the competition is literally nipping at their heels, and it won't be long before AT&T's network hangs around Apple's neck like a GSM anchor....
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Petty people are disproportionably corrupted by petty power…


rmergner

join:2002-02-02
Pipersville, PA

I live and work in SE PA. I have had nothing but great service from ATT, both for phone calls and the web. I find it funny that you think the Storm is such a great phone. My company gave me one for free and it was such an awful phone I threatened to flush it down the toilet and finally gave it back after two months. I could never hear the party on the other end and they generally had trouble hearing me as well. With the exception of the Pearl, every Blackberry I've used has been a lousy phone. My wife is still on Verizon as we are in the middle of a 5 line migration based on contract expiration dates. She commutes on the Blue Route and the calls drop out on her end all the time. This while traveling the most heavily used commute route in the area. I think it might be a bit early to nominate Verizon for sainthood.

Oh, and how do you deal with all those Blackberry outages with your "mission critical" phone. I get mail on the iPhone via our company exchange server before it even shows up on my desktop email client connected directly to our server over the VPN. During Blackberry's most recent outage (a couple weeks ago) I was still getting mail while my unfortunate co-workers who haven't switched yet were left in the dark.

Lets keep the FanBoy impulses out of the discussion and deal with reality. ATT is not perfect in SE PA, for sure, but neither is Verizon.



N3OGH
Yo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
kudos:1

Shrug.

It's a cell phone, not my wife.

NEXT PLEASE!


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