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Rob
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Kendall, FL
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Price

I'm locked in at $6.95/mo., but I have friends paying $16/mo., after spending $299+ for the unit. Instead, they switched to their cable co's DVR at $9-$16/mo., which includes exchanges if the box breaks.
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obeythelaw
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join:2003-04-16
Bayonne, NJ

i think that's just it. The cable co/satellite co., dvr's aren't that bad. they may not have all of the bells and whistles like Tivo but they serve their purpose and are easy to use. I really like my Directv dvr. It works fine.



canesfan2001

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL

It's not just that, they also can't take advantage of some features (On Demand) and don't work with all formats (Satellite).
I personally would gladly pay a few extra bucks a month for a real Tivo, if it actually worked. Comcast has been "working on" deploying the software on their own DVRs for a while now.
Of course, probably the same department that handles that "usage meter"... »Exclusive Screens Of Comcast's New Bandwidth Meter


Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL

reply to obeythelaw

said by obeythelaw:

i think that's just it. The cable co/satellite co., dvr's aren't that bad. they may not have all of the bells and whistles like Tivo but they serve their purpose and are easy to use. I really like my Directv dvr. It works fine.
The new Direct tv HD TiVo is planed for next year.


andunn

join:2001-09-06
Linn Creek, MO

I for one will be getting the Directv HD tivo next year.


gabmasterjcc

join:2003-09-08
Canton, OH

reply to Rob
Why are they paying $16 a month to Tivo? Tivo's most expensive monthly price plan is currently $12.95.


Network Guy
Premium
join:2000-08-25
New York

reply to Joe12345678
DirecTV HD DVR provides on-demand via broadband connect at home. IMO that's a nice little addition. I'd be curious to know if it needs a certain amount of downstream bandwidth for HD on-demand to work.


flaughs2000
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join:2004-02-07
East Freedom, PA

reply to Rob
I had two Tivo's series 2 and I dumped them both for a vista media center PC I now have HD recording VIA QAM and ATSC and a open platform to do what ever I want on this machine I.E. play bluray and watch internet tv like HULU.
One Tivo was a lifetime and the other 6.95mo I gave the lifetime Tivo away to a family member and canceled the other I was getting tired of the all of the ads and I told the Tivo rep when I canceled that they should be paying me to use the Tivo DVR.
And the icing is that there is no monthly fees for media center.



obeythelaw
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join:2003-04-16
Bayonne, NJ

reply to Joe12345678

said by Joe12345678:

said by obeythelaw:

i think that's just it. The cable co/satellite co., dvr's aren't that bad. they may not have all of the bells and whistles like Tivo but they serve their purpose and are easy to use. I really like my Directv dvr. It works fine.
The new Direct tv HD TiVo is planed for next year.
i didn't realize that Directv will be jumping back onto the Tivo bandwagon. If so, i'll take one.


joako
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said by Joe12345678:

said by obeythelaw:

i think that's just it. The cable co/satellite co., dvr's aren't that bad. they may not have all of the bells and whistles like Tivo but they serve their purpose and are easy to use. I really like my Directv dvr. It works fine.
The new Direct tv HD TiVo is planed for next year.
I still see people with the old DirecTivos installed. Heck if I still had directv I would still have mine... hard drive was upgraded, encryption disabled and network card installed so I could extract the video and watch it on my PC. No CableCo DVR can do that.... shit I would love to telnet into my AT&T DVR and get a busybox shell.
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bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
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reply to Joe12345678

said by Joe12345678:

said by obeythelaw:

i think that's just it. The cable co/satellite co., dvr's aren't that bad. they may not have all of the bells and whistles like Tivo but they serve their purpose and are easy to use. I really like my Directv dvr. It works fine.
The new Direct tv HD TiVo is planed for next year.
Didn't they say that LAST year?
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fiberguy
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said by gabmasterjcc:

Why are they paying $16 a month to Tivo? Tivo's most expensive monthly price plan is currently $12.95.
Either way, that's still an insane price to pay for a piece of hardware you have to buy/purchase yourself.. I think it's ridiculous that you're FORCED to pay a subscription fee to use THEIR guide in the first place.

Why can't a user simply purchase a Tivo and use it like a VCR? Why can't there be an option to simply set a start and stop time.. time shift live TV?

And, in the spirit of trying to force DSL to open their networks.. internet providers to be neutral, etc... why is Tivo allowed to close their guide data subscriptions to their own service? Guide data should be no different.. allow competition to the consumer.. Microsoft gives the guide data away for FREE when you use MediaCenter PCs... many other software based DVRs give you free guide data.. why in the world should Tivo feel they need to charge $12.95 a month for a TV Guide, essentially...? I can pick one up on the stands for $3.00 and that's PRINTED material..

Seriously... Tivo has been getting a cash-cow free-ride for some time now.. maybe it's time to focus the guns on them for their closed system.

I own a Tivo.. and having to BUY data is ridiculous.. my only other choice is to BRICK a $400 purchase unless I cough up the dough..

Had to add something:
Tivo cries that cable operators have, in the past, invalidated their Tivo hardware to some customers with the whole shift digital video.. seems to me that Tivo wants their cake and eat it too.. if Tivo wants an open platform for them, they need to open theirs as well.

I think they're loosing subs becuase they're the same price as cable and satellite (sometimes the providers are cheaper) and the hardware from the operators work seamless with their service.. Maybe Tivo needs to simply get a clue and get with the picture, or go away.


Ebolla

join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA

reply to canesfan2001
what do you mean working on, it is available in the NE region and has been for well over 1.5 years. It may not be in all area's but it will be getting there.



canesfan2001

join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL

My point exactly. It's been available for years in one very small area. And has not expanded at all since then.


BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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reply to Rob
How did you get it for 7$ a month ?

I pay years in advance to get even a small break , they dont want to discount anything for me.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
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reply to Rob

said by Rob:

I'm locked in at $6.95/mo., but I have friends paying $16/mo., after spending $299+ for the unit. Instead, they switched to their cable co's DVR at $9-$16/mo., which includes exchanges if the box breaks.
they really need to do away with the monthly fees crap seeing now theres ads and forced infomercial records.
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NOCMan
MacChatter
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join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO

reply to flaughs2000
What ad's? I never see any ad's I'm never forced to see any ad's. Why do I keep hearing about ad's when there are not any???



joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to fiberguy

said by fiberguy:

Seriously... Tivo has been getting a cash-cow free-ride for some time now.. maybe it's time to focus the guns on them for their closed system.
And yet, even after all those ridiculous overcharges and price-gouging, Tivo has never made a profit -- not even one single quarter.

Since they don't make the hardware themselves (contracted out) and make their income on the guide data, I wouldn't look for free or cheap alternatives there...

Maybe Tivo's business model just can't be successful. If so, that's too bad. The DVRs foisted off on cable/satellite users are pure cr@p.


joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to flaughs2000

said by flaughs2000:

I had two Tivo's series 2 and I dumped them both for a vista media center PC I now have HD recording VIA QAM and ATSC and a open platform to do what ever I want on this machine I.E. play bluray and watch internet tv like HULU.
Great, so you're now a hostage to microsoft instead of comcast. Not a big step up in my book.


skinnyt

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reply to fiberguy

why in the world should Tivo feel they need to charge $12.95 a month for a TV Guide, essentially

You can get the guide data for free, the same place that MythTV gets it from. However I know of no way to get the the Tivo to use it. The user forums may have some method to do it, but that's just a SWAG. Additionally, the part that you are really paying for is all the extra data scraping that goes into the guide (actors, genres, "first run only" type features, etc). For me though, the only part that really sucks is that the lifetime service has gotten so expensive. That's the main thing that's keeping me from getting a third Tivo at this point, $400 is just too much compared to what I paid for lifetime subscription for the first two.

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