 gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2
 ·Suddenlink
| DNS Redirecting is BAD If you need more proof, ICANN is on board now, or has been, and this is new news for me. I have always been against it.
Having to opt out all the time, with CenturyLink is a pain in the butt. It must use cookies or something. I've had to opt out more than a few times on each PC.
And IF it is cookie based, what about other programs?
And please don't tell me to change my DNS servers, to ones, other than the ones my ISP gives me. I realize this is an option, but to me, not a good one.
Here is a link to the pcworld story:
»www.pcworld.com/article/183135/r···ann.html
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I'm not giving CenturyTelBarqLink a free pass here, but in all honesty, I haven't used ISP's DNS servers in 5 years and have never had an issue. |
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Suddenlink
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You guys are sort of missing the point. I pay for internet service, and part of that service, includes DNS services.
I shouldn't have to use a 3rd party DNS server, for my service to work correctly. And I shouldn't have to setup my own either.
Obviously I could... BUT...
It's not like I get a discount if I don't use theirs.
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| said by gatorkram:It's not like I get a discount if I don't use theirs. Well I could say you are, b/c that does go towards the bottom line of the company, which helps keep prices as their current levels... And your service does include DNS services, albeit a service you don't particularly like, but it is DNS services nonetheless. Part of your agreement to use your DSL is that you agree to aforementioned services, so to recap, you are getting exactly what you agree to pay for. |
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Suddenlink
| I disagree. It's broken.
The opt-out does not work. It seems to sometimes work, and sometimes not. Maybe the cookie expires or something, not really my job to troubleshoot the issue, but it is not working as expected.
They should just offer correctly working DNS servers for those who want to opt out, or fix the current system.
I still think it breaks other apps, returning an IP for a non-existent domain... Bleh
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you are getting exactly what you agree to pay for
and a little more...
»arstechnica.com/old/content/2008···buck.ars |
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Try these:
138.210.8.3
205.244.112.20
# dig @138.210.81.3 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
# dig @205.244.112.20 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
Think twice about using open recursive servers
»searchsecurity.techtarget.com/ex···,00.html
»consumerist.com/2009/05/mystery-···ers.html
# dig @208.67.222.222 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
208.69.32.132
# dig @208.67.220.220 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
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said by Go Tarheels:............. Part of your agreement to use your DSL is that you agree to aforementioned services, so to recap, you are getting exactly what you agree to pay for. Please supply a link or some other verification that this is required part of my DSL service. I have reviewed the agreements that I have signed since first receiving DSL service in Sept 1998 from Sprint. Even the ELUA from a 660 when you currently sign up does not require you to only use CenturyLink's DNS servers.
And to gatorkram ---- you bitched about this in Jan 2008 »We demand true and correct DNS servers
I agree that redirection is a pain in the a**. Verisign started this sh*t back in 2003 and it's gotten worse. Just about every ISP is doing it for additional revenue (bottom line revenue that the stockholders demand) |
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Suddenlink
| I decided awhile ago, to switch back to our (read CL) dns servers. The first time I got the search page, I said, cool, I can turn this off. But it keeps coming back. Opting out simply doesn't work.
No idea why it doesn't stay opted out.
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Let me clarify - I wasn't stating the T&C's requires you to use CTL's DNS service, but rather countering the argument that stated that CTL's DNS redirect service wasn't part of his plan, or he's not receiving proper DNS. Basically, if you decide to use Centurylink's DNS services, then you are bound by the T&C's set forth in the privacy policy.
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
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·Suddenlink
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I guess no one is going to address that the opt-out is BROKEN
More than likely, it's working as designed.
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ozarPremium
join:2008-04-13
USA Reviews:
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| said by gatorkram:More than likely, it's working as designed. I think that is indeed the case, and they have no intention of fixing it.
Once a person opts out, they should remain out until they manually opt themselves back in. If the ISP has technical difficulties in doing that, they should refrain from all redirecting efforts until they can fix the issue, at least in my own opinion.
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mworks
join:2006-06-13
Faison, NC | reply to gatorkram
I understand where the poster is coming from. I have changed my DNS to opendns and still on occasion end up redirected to century links page. I really would like an answer as how to prevent it. Most of the time it goes to the opendns site if it is a bad address but not always.
This is the page from my router showing the dns servers are indeed changed.
»img190.yfrog.com/img190/989/dnsp.jpg |
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| I've had that happen too, and I also use OpenDNS. There is something a bit deeper going on methinks. |
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rabeatzPremium
join:2009-03-21
Apopka, FL | That happened to me occasionally as well - I'm using DDWRT. In DDWRT you have to issue it a "strict-order" command to ONLY use the DNS servers specified or it may take the fastest route, which can sometimes be considered the original ISP DNS servers that it's pulling, regardless of the fact that I manually entered my own DNS servers in the setup.
»www.opendns.com/support/article/120
Perhaps your routers are doing something similar? I haven't seen the CLINK/Embarq redirect page since doing that.
Although, my modem is briged as well - do you guys have your modems bridged? If not, perhaps the modem is using the DNS it has to route you, regardless of what's set in the router. |
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mworks
join:2006-06-13
Faison, NC | The router I use ,Netgear DGND3300 , has the DSL modem built into it, got tired of having a modem and a router and it was cheap from a friend. I love this router because it has so many features like a usb port where I can connect an external drive and access from any computer on the internet. Highly recommend it for DSL users. I have set the dns to use whatever I tell it to use and it does 99% of the time, but I still see the redirect sometimes.
Only way I can think of that is possible is if they are monitoring traffic.
The router:
»netgear.com/Products/RoutersandG···300.aspx |
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I guess no one is going to address that the opt-out is BROKEN
Maybe cause it's broke since inception two years ago is the reason we're allowed to use the clean ns servers at embarqservices.net |
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gatorkramKaBOOM BabyPremium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Suddenlink
| said by sestrada: I guess no one is going to address that the opt-out is BROKEN
Maybe cause it's broke since inception two years ago is the reason we're allowed to use the clean ns servers at embarqservices.net And what are those?
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rabeatzPremium
join:2009-03-21
Apopka, FL
2 edits | »embarqservices.net/ipsupport/dns···p#dnsips
Thats the only mention of DNS servers I can find.
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What are the host names and IP addresses of CenturyLink's DNS servers?
Name Server IP Address Server Type
dns-auth-3.centurylinkservices.net 207.14.235.234 Primary
dns-auth-4.centurylinkservices.net 67.238.98.162 Secondary
dns-auth-5.centurylinkservices.net 74.4.19.187 Secondary
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