CenturyLink → Re: DNS Redirecting is BAD

Well I could say you are, b/c that does go towards the bottom line of the company, which helps keep prices as their current levels... And your service does include DNS services, albeit a service you don't particularly like, but it is DNS services nonetheless. Part of your agreement to use your DSL is that you agree to aforementioned services, so to recap, you are getting exactly what you agree to pay for.

I disagree. It's broken.

The opt-out does not work. It seems to sometimes work, and sometimes not. Maybe the cookie expires or something, not really my job to troubleshoot the issue, but it is not working as expected.

They should just offer correctly working DNS servers for those who want to opt out, or fix the current system.

I still think it breaks other apps, returning an IP for a non-existent domain... Bleh

you are getting exactly what you agree to pay for

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and a little more...

»arstechnica.com/old/cont ··· buck.ars

Try these:

138.210.8.3
205.244.112.20

# dig @138.210.81.3 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
# dig @205.244.112.20 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short

Think twice about using open recursive servers

»searchsecurity.techtarge ··· ,00.html

»consumerist.com/2009/05/ ··· ers.html

# dig @208.67.222.222 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
208.69.32.132

# dig @208.67.220.220 -t a xxxhothothot.com +short
208.69.32.132

Please supply a link or some other verification that this is required part of my DSL service. I have reviewed the agreements that I have signed since first receiving DSL service in Sept 1998 from Sprint. Even the ELUA from a 660 when you currently sign up does not require you to only use CenturyLink's DNS servers.

And to gatorkram ---- you bitched about this in Jan 2008 »We demand true and correct DNS servers

I agree that redirection is a pain in the a**. Verisign started this sh*t back in 2003 and it's gotten worse. Just about every ISP is doing it for additional revenue (bottom line revenue that the stockholders demand)

I decided awhile ago, to switch back to our (read CL) dns servers. The first time I got the search page, I said, cool, I can turn this off. But it keeps coming back. Opting out simply doesn't work.

No idea why it doesn't stay opted out.

Let me clarify - I wasn't stating the T&C's requires you to use CTL's DNS service, but rather countering the argument that stated that CTL's DNS redirect service wasn't part of his plan, or he's not receiving proper DNS. Basically, if you decide to use Centurylink's DNS services, then you are bound by the T&C's set forth in the privacy policy.

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Dude, you are so full of it, if I may he so blunt. Your statement does not even make any sense. We pay for a service, and that means ALL of it has to work. Improper DNS means faulty Internet service. We don't pay good money for defective anything. What if their were no alternatives? I finally gave up and started using Google DNS.

You are just silly.

How am I full of it? I copy & pasted what was from the CTL website. Just by you using the service you agree to the T&C's. You may not think so, but it does. CTL can shut you down at anytime for whatever reason. They can also deliver ad content to you if you do an improper search. And to go the extreme, they could redirect you from any non-CTL DNS servers, to their own servers. It's CTL's network, don't like it, then find a new one... I don't understand why that is so hard to understand.

The only thing stopping a business from doing anything like that is the fact is that there is competition, so they walk a fine line of providing decent service and trying to make the most of the consumer without pissing them off too much.

Dear DSL Tech,

they could redirect you from any non-CTL DNS servers, to their own servers

Where did you read this?

Can you post the link?

Thanks

I didn't see it anywhere...what I am saying is that unless gov't forbids them to do so, the ToS are pretty open to allow them to do whatever they want with their network traffic. So its not a matter of them doing it...it just seems ToS are pretty clear.