Verizon CEO: Hulu Will Be Dead Soon > Maybe it will die, but..

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Re: Maybe it will die, but..

Network broadcasts usually aren't encrypted likecable broadcasts are. I can transfer network shows from my DVR to a hard drive. If I can can do that, others can too, so there will continue to be high quality rips of these shows online for free.

Hulu is great because it's free, but if they change, they'll probably go the way of Napster.

I have no problem with recording OTA broadcasts for personal use, and in fact do so routinely. My point was that as much as karlmarx believes that content belongs to everyone and that he can do what he wants with it, that's not how the content is currently licensed.

Hulu is only "great" because it's free. The few times that I've used the service, the technology was questionable and the content was definitely lacking. I really don't care if Hulu stays or goes as I don't use the service.

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said by karlmarx:

I for one, will happily share my commercial free versions of TV shows that I legally recorded with EVERYONE who wants it.

But then you are retransmitting without permission which isn't authorized

TOS? Hmm, nope, never read them, because, oh WAIT, it's FREE! What part of 'free' don't you understand. Here's my logic. #1: It's broadcast for free. #2: The supreme court ruled you have a right to record a show. #3: Downloading a FREE TV show is no different than recording it yourself. You may disagree with that, but please explain how downloading it is ANY different than recording it? BOTH versions are digitally identical in every way manner and form, so there is no difference there. And, being FREE, it means it has a VALUE of, umm, wait for it, umm, FREE!. You can't go from FREE to NOT-FREE. Period.
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Fine, but no-one actually trades sporting events on torrents. Show me a FREE BROADCAST series that has that, and then maybe I'll listen, but I've NEVER seen it on TV, EXCEPT for sports, AND, AND, it's the LEAGUE that prohibits it, NOT the network.
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No, it IS FREE as in Beer. Well, not totally free, since WE THE TAXPAYERS have GIVEN them the spectrum, which has a value, to the broadcaster for FREE. So, they get FREE spectrum, (well, we gave it to them), and as part of THAT agreement, whatever they broadcast, is, by definition, FREE too. If I have an IDEA, which is all a TV show is really, and I shout it out to the world, then guess what, I can't complain if someone uses my idea. That's EXACTLY what a FREE OTA transmission is, FREE IDEA'S. The 'value' they receive is from advertisers, this is true. And if I don't watch the commercial, then they don't get as much money. Oh, wait, I use adblocker, so websites that give me FREE content ALSO don't get advertising revenue from me. By your definition, if I block AD's, then I guess I am stealing? Adblocked Websites are no different than commercial free torrents. Something is being freely given, and if I use technology to block the ads, then they don't make AS MUCH money. Cry me a river. I pay for bandwidth, what I do with it is MY business. If I choose not to watch ads, be it a web site, or a tv show, then you had better come up with another way to make money, because the TECHNOLOGY has changed the revenue model, and it's not my fault if you can't make money hand over fist like you used to.
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The happiest countries are the most secular. The struggle AGAINST corporations is the struggle FOR humanity!

Most broadcast stations were not given the spectrum for free, they license it from the FCC on a regular interval for a fee. A fee that in most cases is considered, non-trivial. Misrepresenting the truth or making assumptions that are not true and easily verifiable by doing a quick search does not help your argument, it just makes it look like you are trolling or extremely ignorant.

In the US in most cases it is legal to record a broadcast transmission for your own personal use, however the distribution via any method (CD, torrent) is not allowed due to copyright law. Free has absolutely no bearing on copyright law, if I give you a book for free or even the publisher and/or author gives you a copy, you have absolutely no legal right to distribute copies of the work.

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