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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | reply to karlmarx
Re: Maybe it will die, but.. said by karlmarx:Ummm, copyright infringement is NOT THEFT It is still not right. I'm not sure what part you don't get. Having sex with a willing 16 year old girl isn't "rape". It doesn't mean it's ok to do.
I'm not sure why you think you can take someone else's work and deseminate anyway you feel like without their permission. | | |
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| What's 'right'? I mean, do you honestly think that your moral values are better than mine? If I was a muslim, and I killed you, I would not be morally wrong because it's their belief that they should kill anyone who is not muslim. I consider it wrong, but I don't think my moral system is any better than theirs. Of course, being a member of the christian right wing nut case means that whatever YOU think is right, by definition, must be morally correct. NEVER inject morals into a legal problem, it's just not done. I feel that LEGALLY, since it's broadcast for FREE, the manner in which I get it is irrelevant. Morally, again, I see no problem. You however, subscribe to the RIGHT for a company to make money, even when technology has changed the manner in which they USED to make money. If the networks go under, I won't shed a tear. If there is money to be made, someone will do it. If there is no money to be made, then fine, let TV die. No skin off my back.
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The LEGAL definition of "statutory rape" is someone giving consent who (according to society) does not have the right to give consent to sexual activity for any of several reasons (usually age OR diminished capacity; however, statutory rape in a Case Two [diminished-capacity] situation must generally involve a person committed due to feeblemindedness or similar medical condition being the victim if the person is ABOVE the age of majority in the jurisdiction). In any jurisdiction where the crime exists, it exists due to religious influence on the jurisdiction's law (in other words, it's morality encoded into legislation). Note that I did NOT say that it is strictly Christian; it isn't. However, strictly speaking, is there a difference between morality in legislation and ethics in legislation? If there is, that difference should be spelled out; if not, then so-called "ethics laws" should be expunged from any non-theocracy on common-sense grounds. | |
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I'm actually with Karl on this one. For the most part, I don't download torrents because I think it's wrong to do so. However I, at least, understand that his opinion is different than mine, his morals are different than mine, and I cannot claim mine to be 'better' than his.
He also has a good point: Shows (at least, on the major networks) broadcast for free over the airwaves. Also, to add to the point, the broadcaster already received the revenue from the advertisers for the commercials during the show. Soooo... calling it theft isn't very accurate. The broadcaster didn't lose anything by it being torrented, since A) it was broadcast over the air, where anyone can watch it (and/or record it) for free and B) the broadcaster got paid.
Oh, and one last point - depending on what part of the world you are in, having sex with a 16 year old girl might be completely acceptable. Hell, it varies from state to state in the US.
Karl is right. Legal matters are legal matters. Morality has very little place in legality, ultimately.
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| said by TheRogueX:He also has a good point: Shows (at least, on the major networks) broadcast for free over the airwaves. Also, to add to the point, the broadcaster already received the revenue from the advertisers for the commercials during the show. Soooo... calling it theft isn't very accurate. The broadcaster didn't lose anything by it being torrented, since A) it was broadcast over the air, where anyone can watch it (and/or record it) for free and B) the broadcaster got paid. Actually the rates paid by advertisers depends on the ratings for a particular time slot. If fewer people watch the shows from authorized means (cable/satellite) and watch them from torrents, they won't be counted and the broadcaster would end up charging advertisers less, i.e. losing money. | |
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