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| reply to Ebolla
Re: Secret Service falls down on the job said by Ebolla:what law did they break that would give them jail time. As far as I can see they drove up to front gate, got turned away, went to another gate, claimed to be on the list but somehow the name was missing. They didn't claim to be someone else, it wasn't like they impersonated someone. Some moron didn't follow protocol and let them in. They lied when they said they should be on the list.
This seems like computer hacking. Should an intruder be innocent if the system they hacked was insecure? Or, does the intruder bear the responsibility for knowing that they're trying to hack a system that they were not authorized to access?
Personally, I think we should ban reality shows. I'm getting tired of how our depraved entertainment values have led to this sort of stuff (including the recent "balloon boy" episode.).
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 Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA | "I am on the list"
"no your not"
"I should be"
"well you are not"
That isn't exactly jail time material. Now if they claimed to be someone they are not that yeah I could see jail time as a possible outcome. Who knows they may of even said "We want to go to the party" and never even claimed to be on the list. |
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·magicjack.com
| said by Ebolla:Now if they claimed to be someone they are not that yeah I could see jail time as a possible outcome. To me, it seems similar to a hacker probing for a way into a system (event) which they know they weren't granted access to.
All your rationalizations about how they didn't misrepresent themselves don't change the above simple fact. When an intruder hacks a system, even using their real name and IP address, they've still hacked a system. Entered something they knew they were not granted access to. It doesn't matter how poor the system's security was.
Mark |
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 JeffreyWilpon please sell the MetsPremium
join:2002-12-24
Long Island
kudos:3 | If I rob a bank, and I choose to rob this bank because I know the security sucks and I could probably get away with it, I still robbed a fucking bank. |
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jus10
join:2009-08-04
Sterling, VA Reviews:
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| Robbing a bank has rather traumatic impacts on the folks working there, and of course, money disappears. That is, someone was harmed.
Now, other than the large amount of egg on the SS's face, I'm not sure what harm occurred. If they got a meal, they should pay for that. But I don't see the need for jailtime. There are real criminals to put in jail.
As to whether they lied to get in, I suppose the first question was if anyone even asked them if they were on the guest list. |
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| said by jus10:That is, someone was harmed. Trust me someone was harmed and he had a badge... Guess what... He will want revenge, and he will have it too. Want to guess why? Because his boss was embarrassed also.
So... These punk assed morons who want to play with the big dogs and do photo ops, they get to go to jail. |
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| reply to amigo_boy
I think "reality" shows are making people do whatever it takes, even if it may be detrimental to someone else, to become famous.
I despise reality shows that do not help to better serve mankind. The Biggest Loser is one reality show that I actually like.
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Satan is always busy. He makes bad things look good and good things look bad! Watch that Devil. |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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1 edit | reply to Ebolla
Reminds me of this:
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B7HG8_xbDw#t=0m45s
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Ah darn the time thing didn't work. Forward to 45 seconds in.... |
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·magicjack.com
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said by jus10:Now, other than the large amount of egg on the SS's face, I'm not sure what harm occurred. If they got a meal, they should pay for that. But I don't see the need for jailtime. There are real criminals to put in jail. Most states have laws against obstructing a police officer in the commission of his duties. A felony in some states. Obstruction includes lying.
I don't know if a federal law exists (if the Secret Service manned the gates). Or, a DC law (if the DC police manned the gates, which is usually the case).
said by jus10:As to whether they lied to get in, I suppose the first question was if anyone even asked them if they were on the guest list.
News reports say the couple insisted they were on the list and that a mistake was made. When turned away from the main entrance they went to a side entrance.
I don't believe it's unreasonable to believe they could be charged with a crime. They clearly intended to deceive law enforcement to enter a secure area. There are plenty of laws which criminalize such conduct in other circumstances (computer hacking, obstructing a peace officer).
There may not be a law for this particular instance. But, it's very similar to others.
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 Grimm43You Never Hear The One That Kills YouPremium
join:2000-11-02
Largo, FL
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Hmm, well, try slipping into a High Security area then get caught and see how that works out for you ok?
The points being made that "no harm was done" or "nothing bad happened" etc are weak to the extreme!
Attendance of any function where the POTUS or VP are snuggling up with attendees should be considered of the Highest Priority.
These wannabe high society scammers should see the inside of a jail cell. |
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waaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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