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amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
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reply to Ebolla

Re: Secret Service falls down on the job

said by Ebolla:

Now if they claimed to be someone they are not that yeah I could see jail time as a possible outcome.
To me, it seems similar to a hacker probing for a way into a system (event) which they know they weren't granted access to.

All your rationalizations about how they didn't misrepresent themselves don't change the above simple fact. When an intruder hacks a system, even using their real name and IP address, they've still hacked a system. Entered something they knew they were not granted access to. It doesn't matter how poor the system's security was.

Mark


Jeffrey
Wilpon please sell the Mets
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join:2002-12-24
Long Island
kudos:3

If I rob a bank, and I choose to rob this bank because I know the security sucks and I could probably get away with it, I still robbed a fucking bank.


jus10

join:2009-08-04
Sterling, VA
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Robbing a bank has rather traumatic impacts on the folks working there, and of course, money disappears. That is, someone was harmed.

Now, other than the large amount of egg on the SS's face, I'm not sure what harm occurred. If they got a meal, they should pay for that. But I don't see the need for jailtime. There are real criminals to put in jail.

As to whether they lied to get in, I suppose the first question was if anyone even asked them if they were on the guest list.



AnonDOG

@kaballero.com

said by jus10:

That is, someone was harmed.
Trust me someone was harmed and he had a badge... Guess what... He will want revenge, and he will have it too. Want to guess why? Because his boss was embarrassed also.

So... These punk assed morons who want to play with the big dogs and do photo ops, they get to go to jail.

amigo_boy

join:2005-07-22
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·magicjack.com

reply to jus10

said by jus10:

Now, other than the large amount of egg on the SS's face, I'm not sure what harm occurred. If they got a meal, they should pay for that. But I don't see the need for jailtime. There are real criminals to put in jail.
Most states have laws against obstructing a police officer in the commission of his duties. A felony in some states. Obstruction includes lying.

I don't know if a federal law exists (if the Secret Service manned the gates). Or, a DC law (if the DC police manned the gates, which is usually the case).

said by jus10:

As to whether they lied to get in, I suppose the first question was if anyone even asked them if they were on the guest list.


News reports say the couple insisted they were on the list and that a mistake was made. When turned away from the main entrance they went to a side entrance.

I don't believe it's unreasonable to believe they could be charged with a crime. They clearly intended to deceive law enforcement to enter a secure area. There are plenty of laws which criminalize such conduct in other circumstances (computer hacking, obstructing a peace officer).

There may not be a law for this particular instance. But, it's very similar to others.

Mark


Grimm43
You Never Hear The One That Kills You
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join:2000-11-02
Largo, FL

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reply to jus10
Hmm, well, try slipping into a High Security area then get caught and see how that works out for you ok?

The points being made that "no harm was done" or "nothing bad happened" etc are weak to the extreme!

Attendance of any function where the POTUS or VP are snuggling up with attendees should be considered of the Highest Priority.

These wannabe high society scammers should see the inside of a jail cell.


chronoss2009
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reply to AnonDOG
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