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silentlooker
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join:2009-11-01

reply to Smokey Bear

Re: Thousands of BT customers accused of piracy

said by Smokey Bear:

Believe it or not, even pubs in the UK are in the spotlight of freaking Copyright Terrorism Hunt & Destroy Squads:

Pub 'fined £8k' for Wi-Fi copyright infringement
ZDNet UK | 27 Nov 2009

»news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/···6,00.htm

A pub owner has been fined £8,000 (about $13,183) because someone unlawfully downloaded copyrighted material over their open Wi-Fi hotspot, according to the managing director of hotspot provider The Cloud.

Graham Cove told ZDNet UK on Friday he believes the case to be the first of its kind in the UK. However, he would not identify the pub concerned, because its owner — a pubco that is a client of The Cloud's — had not yet given their permission for the case to be publicised.

Cove would say only that the fine had been levied in a civil case, brought about by a rights holder, "sometime this summer". The Cloud's pubco clients include Fullers, Greene King, Marsdens, Scottish & Newcastle, Mitchell & Butlers and Punch Taverns.

The law surrounding open Wi-Fi networks and the liability of those running them is a grey area.
Followup story: Law expert issues warning to open Wi-Fi operators
I am thinking in USA you can win that case. It's same thing if someone takes you car because you left the keys in it, does that mean you're guilty when it's used for bank robbery? Same thig with wifi, just because someone used it for illegal activity without your permission, do not make you guilty.

connector2

join:2005-04-17
Albuquerque, NM

said by silentlooker:

said by Smokey Bear:

Believe it or not, even pubs in the UK are in the spotlight of freaking Copyright Terrorism Hunt & Destroy Squads:

Pub 'fined £8k' for Wi-Fi copyright infringement
ZDNet UK | 27 Nov 2009

»news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/···6,00.htm

A pub owner has been fined £8,000 (about $13,183) because someone unlawfully downloaded copyrighted material over their open Wi-Fi hotspot, according to the managing director of hotspot provider The Cloud.

Graham Cove told ZDNet UK on Friday he believes the case to be the first of its kind in the UK. However, he would not identify the pub concerned, because its owner — a pubco that is a client of The Cloud's — had not yet given their permission for the case to be publicised.

Cove would say only that the fine had been levied in a civil case, brought about by a rights holder, "sometime this summer". The Cloud's pubco clients include Fullers, Greene King, Marsdens, Scottish & Newcastle, Mitchell & Butlers and Punch Taverns.

The law surrounding open Wi-Fi networks and the liability of those running them is a grey area.
Followup story: Law expert issues warning to open Wi-Fi operators
I am thinking in USA you can win that case. It's same thing if someone takes you car because you left the keys in it, does that mean you're guilty when it's used for bank robbery? Same thig with wifi, just because someone used it for illegal activity without your permission, do not make you guilty.
In the USA you will probably be charged as an accessory. The precedent was set with bars when drunk patrons drive and are involved in an accident.


silentlooker
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join:2009-11-01

said by connector2:

In the USA you will probably be charged as an accessory. The precedent was set with bars when drunk patrons drive and are involved in an accident.
That is totally different would you not think? Patrons can see when person is drunk, patrons provide alcohole to specific person in return for money.

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