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pnh102
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Re: Ban all Lobbyists..

said by karlmarx:

Whoa! There's your problem. Where in the WORLD do you get the IDEA that a corporation, which IS NOT A PERSON, has ANY RIGHTS at all? If you are a PERSON, the government can put you in jail. If you are a corporation, you can NEVER go to jail, thus, the corporations should have NO RIGHT to 'redress their grievances' with the US government.
You conveniently forget to mention that corporations can be and have been punished for illegal activity.

Corporations are also all owned by individual shareholders, who are persons, and who thus have the right to petition Congress for redress of grievances.
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karlmarx

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Again, please explain how someone who CAN'T go to jail, gets to write a law where the offender CAN go to jail? If you think that a fine = jail time, you are sadly mistaken. One is loss of money, the other is loss of FREEDOM, which, if I read the constitution, is one of our guaranteed rights. Tell you what, why don't you lend me some money. And I choose not to pay you back? You COULD get me sent to jail. Let's say you lend the same money to a corporation? Guess what, you CAN'T send it to jail. So why in the world are you willing to give rights to something that can't have them taken away? If a corporation pays a lobbyist to write a law that CAN take away the right of freedom from an individual, please explain how the individual can write a law to take away the freedom from a corporation?
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said by pnh102:

You conveniently forget to mention that corporations can be and have been punished for illegal activity.
I don't think he has. Forgotten anything about corporate "punishment", that is. Most times, government imposed fines are just written off by the corporations as "Cost of doing Business"; they are about as severe as the speeding fines we get for going 10 M.P.H. over the speed limit. Maybe not even as severe.
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