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imrf
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Utica, MI

reply to NOVA_Guy

Re: WTF

said by NOVA_Guy:

Companies like Verizon and AT&T are doing this with their customers as well, but are not willing to speak about it in the slightest bit.
And you know this for a fact of just a WAG?

Sprint had no choice to "being a little open" about this because they got busted doing it. Kiss their butt all you want, they're still a shady company.


NOVA_Guy
ObamaCare Kills Americans
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said by imrf:

And you know this for a fact of just a WAG?
From the last paragraph of Karl's article:
Wired's Threat Level blog goes on to note Yahoo and Verizon's legal objections to Soghoian's FOIA request, the companies defending limited disclosure of their surveillance activities because knowing the truth would "shock and confuse" customers, and "impair our reputation for protection of user privacy and security."
I'd say that this is a good indication that Verizon is in on the game as well. If Sprint and Verizon are doing it, there's a good bet that T-Mobile and AT&T aren't far behind either. I don't know for a fact, but call it an educated guess from someone who's basing it upon an informed opinion.

said by imrf:

Sprint had no choice to "being a little open" about this because they got busted doing it. Kiss their butt all you want, they're still a shady company.
No arguments from me on this point. I guess the main point of my previous post should be interpreted as "Don't think that moving from Sprint makes your GPS data any more private," rather than conveying that Sprint is so much nicer and more open than all the other companies.
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To all liberals: I am NOT one of your parents, so get the heck out of my wallet. It's time for you to grow up and take some personal responsibility for taking care of yourselves, which means not relying on the government to give it all to you.


imrf
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What I'm saying is that I doubt they are doing it as easily as Sprint is letting happen.



NOVA_Guy
ObamaCare Kills Americans
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If that's the case, Verizon and AT&T shouldn't be too concerned about hiding everything they're doing to cooperate with law enforcement agencies, IMO. They could very easily come out and say "We provide this on a limited basis" and outline what is required to access their data. Instead it appears that they're trying to obfuscate things.

Personally, I think that every American should have a right to know what's happening (or what could happen) with data like this. We should have a right to know who can obtain access to what data, and under what conditions it will be provided. We can call it a "customer bill of rights" or something similar.

Your thoughts?
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To all liberals: I am NOT one of your parents, so get the heck out of my wallet. It's time for you to grow up and take some personal responsibility for taking care of yourselves, which means not relying on the government to give it all to you.



imrf
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Utica, MI

Yeah, a customer bill of rights should have been part of the bill that the previous administration passed. But alas, our government isn't "for the people" any more.



skyward

@sprint.com

reply to imrf
The simple fact that both Verizon and AT&T did wiretap for the government. You know it was big news months ago. Also you need to read up on CALEA.


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