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Re: Wouldn't switch So does everyone else. What is your point? Do you like roads, schools, phones, electricity, railroads, radio, tv, internet, computers, fire departments, police departments, hospitals, etc? | |
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| said by insomniac84:So does everyone else. What is your point? Do you like roads, schools, phones, electricity, railroads, radio, tv, internet, computers, fire departments, police departments, hospitals, etc? What is YOUR point? Your question might as well read: Do you like ice cream? Of course, everyone does - the question is whether we're being ripped off by the structure of these goods, their consumption, and the funding mechanism (free ride for the majority at the expense of the productive).
NOT ONE of the items you mention is provided more effectively by the government than private models.
Our police and firemen make $100K+, rarely combat fires or crime, earn immense overtime, and retire quite young with fat pensions.
Our "free" public roads are always in miserable shape, and congested as there is no direct cost to use.
Our public school monopoly sucks up half the state budget, but is unable to graduate 50% of its charges.
Our municipal utilities have managed to steal billions from us, but failed to invest any in infrastructure maintenance. Their employees do better than the public safety personnel.
Public radio ... ?
Hospitals run by the government... lessee... LA County, Killer King, the VA... that's a scary thought.
I'll take "private" any day of the week. | |
KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | public safety by the private sector, "i am sorry mam your neighborhood isnt profitable to police". house burned down? sorry but your block also isnt profitable for fire protection.
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | said by Kearnstd:public safety by the private sector, "i am sorry mam your neighborhood isnt profitable to police". house burned down? sorry but your block also isnt profitable for fire protection. If you go with the fact that most crime happens in poor neighborhoods, then the public police forces aren't terribly effective either.
As for private firefighters, those actually were in force during colonial times. Subscribers would pay a private fire company for the privilege of having firefighters on call whenever you needed them.
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Alexandria, VA | said by pnh102:If you go with the fact that most crime happens in poor neighborhoods, then the public police forces aren't terribly effective either. Clearly, the most cost-effective approach would simply be to surround such neighborhoods with moats and claymores.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by nixen:Clearly, the most cost-effective approach would simply be to surround such neighborhoods with moats and claymores. Well, we have more and more gated communities popping up.
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said by Kearnstd:public safety by the private sector, "i am sorry mam your neighborhood isnt profitable to police". house burned down? sorry but your block also isnt profitable for fire protection. Right now, we have the opposite. Criminals get a free ride in all neighborhoods, and no one is responsible. To wit, "to protect and serve", the LAPD's motto, is only a slogan. The courts have ruled they have no such duty. People died when LAPD abandoned Florence & Normandy for political correctness.
We pay phenomenal taxes, only to have our assigned police diverted to other parts of the city. We are unprotected. When crime occurs, the departments announce "increased patrols", never bothering to account for when they took them away. People have died as a result, this year.
Our fire departments are used as public taxis to the hospital for freeloaders. Thanks to union control over staffing, many stations are closed, and taxpayers have died as a result, this very year.
Poverty does not cause crime. The impoverished may make better victims for the predators, but there is no cause and effect.
A case may, I say may, be made that some areas need public subsidy of a temporary nature for police, fire, and basic medical services. But those services can be contracted, instead of creating a permanent government bureaucracy that only exists to feed itself. | |
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