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Re: Works for me.... said by wifi4milez: I tend to agree with that statement. A lot of people (here specifically) get a little too excited by the term 'fiber', when at the end of the day it really doesnt mean anything. Assuming the provider can give you solid service, the delivery medium is rather pointless. Yea, yea.....enjoy your non fiber internet as over here fiber can actually mean 100/100MBps speeds which cable can't even achieve! |
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New York, NY | said by Wa Resident :said by wifi4milez: I tend to agree with that statement. A lot of people (here specifically) get a little too excited by the term 'fiber', when at the end of the day it really doesnt mean anything. Assuming the provider can give you solid service, the delivery medium is rather pointless. Yea, yea.....enjoy your non fiber internet as over here fiber can actually mean 100/100MBps speeds which cable can't even achieve! I have fiber internet, and its no better than HFC based internet to be honest.
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said by Wa Resident :said by wifi4milez: I tend to agree with that statement. A lot of people (here specifically) get a little too excited by the term 'fiber', when at the end of the day it really doesnt mean anything. Assuming the provider can give you solid service, the delivery medium is rather pointless. Yea, yea.....enjoy your non fiber internet as over here fiber can actually mean 100/100MBps speeds which cable can't even achieve! The irony of this is that the only provider delivering 100Mbps speeds to the home is not a FTTH provider. It is a cable company. |
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| said by fifty nine:The irony of this is that the only provider delivering 100Mbps speeds to the home is not a FTTH provider. It is a cable company. Wanna bet?..........100/100MB residential fiber has been available here in WA state for years now!
These fiber internet providers also offer phone and tv service. So no, it's not just verizon or cable companies offering such services. |
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| said by WA Resident :said by fifty nine:The irony of this is that the only provider delivering 100Mbps speeds to the home is not a FTTH provider. It is a cable company. Wanna bet?..........100/100MB residential fiber has been available here in WA state for years now! These fiber internet providers also offer phone and tv service. So no, it's not just verizon or cable companies offering such services. OK so you'll find it in some small pockets here and there. No big deal.
Most people on FTTH are seeing much less. Verizon doesn't even have a 100Mbps planned deployment to home users yet.
Right now, FTTH is cutting edge and it remains to be seen whether it will be mainstream or not.
If cable companies need to upgrade to FTTH, it is not that difficult for them since most of the way has already been covered by fiber. |
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said by wifi4milez:I have fiber internet, and its no better than HFC based internet to be honest. Ok, well you may have fiber that has a decent speed but around here the cable companies just can't match the speed of the fiber providers.
Heck, around this little area the cable company doesn't even offer any internet but there is an all fiber network that the Public Utility Disctrict (electric power company) built which provides residents with internet, tv programming and phone service (depending upon the ISP).
The PUD can't sell any internet services directly to customers (state law) so therefore they sell acces to whatever ISP wants to offer their services to PUD customers. |
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said by fifty nine:said by WA Resident :said by fifty nine:The irony of this is that the only provider delivering 100Mbps speeds to the home is not a FTTH provider. It is a cable company. Wanna bet?..........100/100MB residential fiber has been available here in WA state for years now! These fiber internet providers also offer phone and tv service. So no, it's not just verizon or cable companies offering such services. OK so you'll find it in some small pockets here and there. No big deal. Most people on FTTH are seeing much less. Verizon doesn't even have a 100Mbps planned deployment to home users yet. Right now, FTTH is cutting edge and it remains to be seen whether it will be mainstream or not. If cable companies need to upgrade to FTTH, it is not that difficult for them since most of the way has already been covered by fiber. Yea, cable companies in rural areas like this one really have it that easy when they can't even provide that much tv let alone provide internet....meaning, there is no fiber at all.
I believe that FTTH is the future as there's many fiber networks being built. The county that i live in is still building out their network in order to reach more rural residents. Heck, even cows, goats and pigs have access to fiber around here since it runs along the farms, i could even take pics of the goats with the fiber lines overhead in case you wouldn't believe me. |
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Here's an article from early 2002 about one of Washington's PUDs which offers fiber to the home.
"Residents and businesses in Grant County can make Voice Over IP telephone calls, order Video On Demand movies and access the Internet over their 1 gigabit fiber-optic connections. Each Zipp connection to the home or business is capable of two-way service at 1 gigabit per second speeds."
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said by Wa Resident :said by wifi4milez: I tend to agree with that statement. A lot of people (here specifically) get a little too excited by the term 'fiber', when at the end of the day it really doesnt mean anything. Assuming the provider can give you solid service, the delivery medium is rather pointless. Yea, yea.....enjoy your non fiber internet as over here fiber can actually mean 100/100MBps speeds which cable can't even achieve! Technically speaking, this could be achieved. |
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said by fifty nine:said by WA Resident :said by fifty nine:The irony of this is that the only provider delivering 100Mbps speeds to the home is not a FTTH provider. It is a cable company. Wanna bet?..........100/100MB residential fiber has been available here in WA state for years now! These fiber internet providers also offer phone and tv service. So no, it's not just verizon or cable companies offering such services. OK so you'll find it in some small pockets here and there. No big deal. Most people on FTTH are seeing much less. Verizon doesn't even have a 100Mbps planned deployment to home users yet. Right now, FTTH is cutting edge and it remains to be seen whether it will be mainstream or not. If cable companies need to upgrade to FTTH, it is not that difficult for them since most of the way has already been covered by fiber. I think we will see fiber to the last amp (FTTLA) before we see FTTH. It has practically identical capabilites if the system is 1GHz. On my street, that could work out to 10 QAM channels (380 Mbps using DOCSIS) per house passed |
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said by Wa Resident :said by wifi4milez: I tend to agree with that statement. A lot of people (here specifically) get a little too excited by the term 'fiber', when at the end of the day it really doesnt mean anything. Assuming the provider can give you solid service, the delivery medium is rather pointless. Yea, yea.....enjoy your non fiber internet as over here fiber can actually mean 100/100MBps speeds which cable can't even achieve! Can't achieve??? Docsis 3 allows speeds up to 343 mbps. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed_Tables
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| So why aren't we seeing any cable operators offering 343Mbps speeds?.........They don't even offer 100MBps symmetrical.
Fiber networks have been offering residents 100/100MBps speeds since 2001 in Washington state. They offered Tv programming with video on demand and phone service since 2001 as well.
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| said by WA_Resident:So why aren't we seeing any cable operators offering 343Mbps speeds?.........They don't even offer 100MBps symmetrical. Fiber networks have been offering residents 100/100MBps speeds since 2001 in Washington state. They offered Tv programming with video on demand and phone service since 2001 as well. And how much a month are they charging for 100/100? Comcast charges over $100/month for 50/10. True can offer much higher speeds, but the price would be so high that no one could afford it.
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New York, NY | said by fonzbear2000:said by WA_Resident:So why aren't we seeing any cable operators offering 343Mbps speeds?.........They don't even offer 100MBps symmetrical. Fiber networks have been offering residents 100/100MBps speeds since 2001 in Washington state. They offered Tv programming with video on demand and phone service since 2001 as well. And how much a month are they charging for 100/100? Comcast charges over $100/month for 50/10. True can offer much higher speeds, but the price would be so high that no one could afford it. In case it isnt clear that guy is clearly shilling for his own company. You can check the domain from before he signed up to be a full member.....
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said by fonzbear2000:said by WA_Resident:So why aren't we seeing any cable operators offering 343Mbps speeds?.........They don't even offer 100MBps symmetrical. Fiber networks have been offering residents 100/100MBps speeds since 2001 in Washington state. They offered Tv programming with video on demand and phone service since 2001 as well. And how much a month are they charging for 100/100? Comcast charges over $100/month for 50/10. True can offer much higher speeds, but the price would be so high that no one could afford it. A cool $40 (39.95) in my county, $45 in another county for supposedly 114MBps per month and no caps from this particular ISP.
Don't believe me?....Take a look!
Read it and weep! 
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said by wifi4milez:In case it isnt clear that guy is clearly shilling for his own company. You can check the domain from before he signed up to be a full member..... My own company?.....Do you mean my ISP provider which i haven't even mentioned once?
I'm praising public utilities (PUDs) that offer high speed fiber optic connections in rural areas. |
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WOW! I'm a bit jealous! I still can't complain about my 12/2 connection with a 250GB/month cap which I'll NEVER come close to going over though. That just shows you the greed of the big, giant companies such as Comcast and Verizon who could offer more speed for less, but we'll never see it because companies who offer the same type of internet don't compete with each other so it's almost a monopoly. Hell, the competitor here is Qwest DSL which prevents any other phone company from offering FTTH. Oh well, better than living where there's no internet and having to get satellite with 200MB/month caps(PUKE!).
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| said by fonzbear2000:WOW! I'm a bit jealous! I still can't complain about my 12/2 connection with a 250GB/month cap which I'll NEVER come close to going over though. That just shows you the greed of the big, giant companies such as Comcast and Verizon who could offer more speed for less, but we'll never see it because companies who offer the same type of internet don't compete with each other so it's almost a monopoly. Hell, the competitor here is Qwest DSL which prevents any other phone company from offering FTTH. Oh well, better than living where there's no internet and having to get satellite with 200MB/month caps(PUKE!). Well, it's kinda of weird with prices and caps around here because in my county there's 8 ISPs that offer internet through the Public Utility District's fiber network and only 2 of them offer the 100MB connections with no caps, one charges $39.95 while the other one is $35.95. Another ISP also offers 100MB connection with a 25G per month cap for $39.95. The rest of them offer lesser speeds (down to 2mb), some have caps and some don't and they all cost $40 per month with the exeption of one ISP (which is a bit expensive).
The next county over also has a fiber network and none of the ISPs provide anywhere close to 100MBps. IFiber which offers the 114Mbps connections (mentioned in the article) only offers 6mb/768k for $35 and 12MB/768k for $40 in that particular county. Seems like the county PUD is throttling/regulating the speed.
Grant county (mentioned in the article) also has some ISPs with
lower speeds and caps. Out of the bunch there is a couple with no caps and truely high speed.
The ISPs can offer low priced internet because they don't have to maintain any of the fiber network since that is owned and maintained by the Public Utility Disctrict which even takes the fiber
right to the outside of your home.
Telecommunication companies tried to stop the PUDs in WA state from offering fiber optics to residents but they failed. Still, the PUDs can't offer any services (internet, TV, Phone) directly to their customers, this is why they contract out to ISPs. |
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