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karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
Chicago, IL

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reply to matrix3D

Re: Americans have gotten too Greedy

Wow.. umm, I don't really know how to respond.

Of course, if my username was tkjunkmail, it probably wouldn't be sarcasm. But, yes, the original post was SUPPOSED to be a sarcastic remark about how much power the corporations have over use.

And, btw, socialism, as I see it, means universal health care, it means government ownership of the backbone of the internet (BUT NOT THE SERVICES). It means that like electricity and water, every household in American has a RIGHT to a fiber connection. It means that we have GOOD public schools to teach science and math and birth control, with no religious interference. It means separation of church and state. It means the end of tax exempt status for religious organizations. And what it REALLY means, is that we bring manufacturing BACK to the US. It means we severely punish any company that moves jobs offshore. It means we set reasonable limits on executive compensation, and and end to market manipulators. It means big oil can make a profit, but NOT $40 BILLION DOLLARS every quater. I means a progressive tax system, where those who make under 50,000 pay no income taxes. It means a national sales (consumption) tax. It means a return to the 90% top tax tier for those making over 5 million.
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Remember 1 in 4 people are retarded. 25% of Americans are Republican. Coincidence? I don't think so.


crookedtrail

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Unfortunately that dream will never be realized, because we live in a world economy, where if you do many of the things you are proposing, we would be breaking free trade agreements with other nations, and incur their wrath. Also, many of the things you propose would probably screw our nation and its innovative spirit, as anyone with an active brain cell and a good idea would leave for somewhere they could actually earn a profit on their invention. Also, separation of church and state is good and all, but your interpretation of it is actually counter to the founding fathers original concept. The Constitution is actually meant to protect the church from undue government interference. Many people say negative things about religious organizations and such, but forget that many times during natural disasters and the like, they are the largest non-government giver of aid received by those affected by such disasters.


karlmarx

join:2006-09-18
Chicago, IL

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I beg to differ. Lets be honest, the US is one of the VERY few countries in the world that has all the natural resources we need to be self sufficient. I'm all for free trade with Europe, but I think China is the biggest threat we will face over the next 25 years. When you say the constitution is meant to protect the church from the government, it actually goes both ways. I firmly agree the right wing nut cases have every right to elect their radical type congresscritters. And, again, you are right, religious organizations are the largest non-government givers, but know this. As my nickname is often quoted "Religion is the opiate of the masses". The vast majority of americans are afraid of death, and that's why religion exists. I have no problem with the concept of 'it's over' when you die. We are just the end result of a random chemical reaction that occurred billions of years ago. We exist, quite simply, because statistically, we SHOULD exist (see: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation ). I don't subscribe to any belief except those I can measure and test. I was raised Catholic, but once I reached the age of reason (about 13), I realized it was all a great big scam.
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Remember 1 in 4 people are retarded. 25% of Americans are Republican. Coincidence? I don't think so.

patcat88

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sonicmerlin

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reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx:

Wow.. umm, I don't really know how to respond.

Of course, if my username was tkjunkmail, it probably wouldn't be sarcasm. But, yes, the original post was SUPPOSED to be a sarcastic remark about how much power the corporations have over use.

And, btw, socialism, as I see it, means universal health care, it means government ownership of the backbone of the internet (BUT NOT THE SERVICES). It means that like electricity and water, every household in American has a RIGHT to a fiber connection. It means that we have GOOD public schools to teach science and math and birth control, with no religious interference. It means separation of church and state. It means the end of tax exempt status for religious organizations. And what it REALLY means, is that we bring manufacturing BACK to the US. It means we severely punish any company that moves jobs offshore. It means we set reasonable limits on executive compensation, and and end to market manipulators. It means big oil can make a profit, but NOT $40 BILLION DOLLARS every quater. I means a progressive tax system, where those who make under 50,000 pay no income taxes. It means a national sales (consumption) tax. It means a return to the 90% top tax tier for those making over 5 million.
I totally agree with everything you said, except for the part about outsourcing. I don`t think you fully understand the necessity and usefulness of outsourcing matured industries to developing countries, in terms of aiding the global economy by increasing global specialization and efficiency.

Outsourcing normally incentivizes a developed country to invent new industries and pool money into advanced collaborative scientific research and development. Think about the manufacturing industries. First came the mechanical revolution in the `60s and `70s, where factories went from predominantly humans using their hands to create things, to humans using machines.

That was outsourced, and `80s ushered in the computer revolution, where many of those machines started to be more efficiently controlled by software.

That techology was eventually outsourced, and manufacturing eventually ushered in robotics.

Why do you think a country like Japan, with practically no natural resources, an ever shrinking population, and constant outsourcing to an extremely close China, doesn`t have an issue with losing jobs overseas? Because they lead in the manufacturing of advanced materials like fiber optics, things that can only be manufactured in a developed economy with the proper infrastructure and human expertise.

Our main problem of the 2000s was that we had no innovation and development of new industries. The Bush administratino eliminated a great deal of government funding and support for research in various fields, and people instead found new jobs in the very low-paying retail sector.

Basically neoconservatives since the `80s have caused the US to fall behind in many research and development areas where it used to lead.