 amungusPremium join:2004-11-26 America Reviews:
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| my neighbor loves his I don't get it.
He'd rather pay the subscription than an up front cost of a Moxi.
Makes no sense to me. Might as well throw ~$10 in a bucket every month and light it on fire.
And yes, Tivo probably loves selling everyone's data to advertisers. I don't care. Don't think I'll ever get one unless they drop the subscription fees completely. Let me buy a box and be done with it. You deserve no more money from me after the initial sale. Otherwise, guess what, I'll stick with the cable box, and/or build my own PVR!
Guess the other issue is how stupid "cable card" is these days. Somebody needs to come up with a solution to replace this mess. I ought to be able to tune in what I pay for, with whatever device, and record it if I wish. |
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 morboComplete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 | Tivo offers things appealing to the masses and the masses agree that that has value. That why people pay for items and services. Not many people have even heard of Moxi, so why would they take a chance on it?
That being said, Tivo was an innovator, and unless they bring their A game fast they are going to be toast. Series 3 is long in the tooth. |
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 | reply to amungus said by amungus:I don't get it. He'd rather pay the subscription than an up front cost of a Moxi. Makes no sense to me. Might as well throw ~$10 in a bucket every month and light it on fire. And yes, Tivo probably loves selling everyone's data to advertisers. I don't care. Don't think I'll ever get one unless they drop the subscription fees completely. Let me buy a box and be done with it. You deserve no more money from me after the initial sale. Otherwise, guess what, I'll stick with the cable box, and/or build my own PVR! Guess the other issue is how stupid "cable card" is these days. Somebody needs to come up with a solution to replace this mess. I ought to be able to tune in what I pay for, with whatever device, and record it if I wish. I have always felt the same way.. Why spent a couple hundred on a DVR and then have to pay a monthly fee???
However, with the ability to plug them into the internet and such I'm starting to see it as reasonable. If TiVO would only allow for a whole house DVR and sell simple setup boxes (players) or allow the current media center jobs (DLink and such) play from their box so we can watch from any TV in the house (like AT&T U-Verse) that would be perfect! (Note: they may and I just don't know it). Maybe add a feature where you can link your TiVO DVR to a PC or home media server and use it's HD for extra capacity.. I could see spending $10 a month on that. |
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| reply to amungus Tivo offers lifetime. $399. Or $299 if you are already a Tivo customer. Or just snag a used one with lifetime off eBay or Craigslist. You can even find new ones on eBay with bundled lifetime.
Me? I got three. Two HDs upgraded to 157 hours of HD each, and an old Series 2 with 180 hours of SD. All lifetime.
[NG]Owner -- It is impossible to create an idiot-proof product. Humanity is simply too adept at churning out better idiots. |
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 | reply to stunod2002 You don't have to pay a monthly fee...you can pay for "lifetime" service on Tivo once, and you never pay them again.... |
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 | reply to stunod2002 I stand corrected on the single use DVR.. Kinda.. They do allow for shows to be recorded on one and watched on another..
From TiVO.com
Multi-room viewing Having two or more TiVo DVRs connected to your home network gives you two or more times the viewing freedom. Record a show on one TiVo DVR and watch it on another in the house. Start a movie in the living room and finish it in the bedroom! |
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 | reply to stunod2002 The "whole house DVR" concept was squashed by the CE industry as a violation of copyright. It used to be in ReplayTV's and its one of the reasons SonicBlue/ReplayTV was sued in to oblivion. So Tivo doesn't have it because they were forced not to have it.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the feature as I was a ReplayTV owner. But you can't hang that one around Tivos neck.
Now that the FCC and Cablelabs are "unclenching" a little and allowing innivation again I really hope Tivo builds a new DVR.
I have an S3 and an HD and I am happy to pay the service fee as long as I NEVER have to use the Comcast SARA interface EVER AGAIN. (It's really that bad.) |
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 | reply to vanheve2 said by vanheve2:You don't have to pay a monthly fee...you can pay for "lifetime" service on Tivo once, and you never pay them again.... Yes, I know a few people that have had that. Only issue is that you are locked into, after a year or 2 and old, antiquated technology and are not able to enjoy the new features available.
I'm sure it is fine for most, myself - I have this issue where if it can be done I need to be able to do it LOL :-D
Plus, the last time I checked the lifetime subscriptions weren't cheap and you would have to keep the DVR for several years for it to be worth it. |
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| reply to vanheve2 said by vanheve2:You don't have to pay a monthly fee...you can pay for "lifetime" service on Tivo once, and you never pay them again.... For the lifetime of that device. Not your lifetime. |
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 | My 75 year old Father loves his tivo, even though he is still hates all technology. His vcrs still blink 12:00. I tried to buy him a lifetime sub to tive and they said they no longer offer this option |
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 | reply to axiomatic What are you talking about.. The whole house DVR thing is very much alive, depending on its implementation, I have 2 tivos as well, and I watch shows on both from both. The downside is that the Tivo networking, even wired at 100meg, is horribly slow and streaming frequently result in a pause for buffering. |
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 | Well Tivo doesn't really "stream" shows to other DVR's in your house like ReplyTV used to do. Tivo makes a copy of your show from one DVR to another. So its kind of different.
The only thing on a Tivo that "streams" per se is Amazon, Netflix, and YouTube. |
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 | reply to axiomatic Direct tv has a good DVR and they have MRV in open testing.
also the Direct tv HD tvio is comeing in 2010 |
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 Hanko join:2001-12-28 Eatonville, WA | reply to stunod2002 I bought 3 ReplayTV boxes with lifetime subscriptions 4 years ago. I have them on a network in the house and can access the videos from any of them on any of the others in the house.
I also use DvArchive on my PC's so I can watch/transfer the movies to the PC.
Unfortunately there is not a HD version and probably never will be. |
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 | reply to amungus I agree with amungus. And he said it better than I could! |
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 | reply to vanheve2 said by vanheve2:You don't have to pay a monthly fee...you can pay for "lifetime" service on Tivo once, and you never pay them again.... I looked at that years ago. It is tied to the unit you buy. If that unit fails, you are screwed. And the tivo at the time only came with a 90 day warrenty. So, buy the unit and the lifetime service and after 90 days you could need to do it all over again! |
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 syslockPremium join:2007-02-03 Ann Arbor, MI | reply to stunod2002 Skipped over Tivo and went right to a home PVR server. With SageTV I can access all my Live TV, video, audio, pictures, etc from any TV. Tivo is ancient technology. |
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 | said by syslock:Skipped over Tivo and went right to a home PVR server. With SageTV I can access all my Live TV, video, audio, pictures, etc from any TV. Tivo is ancient technology. Doesn't seem that cheap to me. You need to pay $180 for each set-top box plus $80 for the software, which needs to run on a PC. -- "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -- George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four.
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 | reply to stunod2002 said by stunod2002:Yes, I know a few people that have had that. Only issue is that you are locked into, after a year or 2 and old, antiquated technology and are not able to enjoy the new features available. I'm sure it is fine for most, myself - I have this issue where if it can be done I need to be able to do it LOL :-D Plus, the last time I checked the lifetime subscriptions weren't cheap and you would have to keep the DVR for several years for it to be worth it. huh.... go figure. Lifetime subscriptions I got on my old Series 1 TiVo's have been on my Series 3 HD TiVo's for a couple of years. That was $199 for lifetime (back in the day). I've enjoyed Netflix and other features for a long time before others offered it. Over the years, software updates have opened up new features. Go figure - I didn't know it would all be antiquated a year or two after I paid for it.  |
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 | reply to caster665 The HD Directivo has been "right around the corner" for about 2 years now. I'll believe it when I see it so that I can finally retire the 2 SD boxes that we still have. |
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