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1 edit | No QWERTY keypad?? This phone is worthless without a QWERTY keypad.
I cannot understand why internet phones do not have QWERTY keypads and I can't see why anyone would want this phone or the iphone if they want to use the internet, email, and text message.
The palm pre has a QWERTY keypad. Palm gets it.
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| As someone who used to have a phone with a physical qwerty keyboard and now uses an Iphone, I have to say that the virtual querty keyboard on the iPhone is as good as if not better than (due to better spell checking) my old querty keyboard.
Not all querty keyboards are made equal either, I tried the Driod keyboard and it was horrible for my big fingers, constantly hitting more than one key, for me the iPhone virtual keyboard is 10x better, and my old LG phone had an excellent keyboard, but it's virtual keyboard what a POS that I couldn't use. Andriod devices in particular seem to have an inferior virtual keyboard to the iPhone. |
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1 edit | I agree. The good qwerty keypads are the ones that you slide down or fold open with the phone sideways.
A real keypad beats a virtual one anyday.
Even the palm pre keypad looks too small.
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said by MovieLover76:As someone who used to have a phone with a physical qwerty keyboard and now uses an Iphone, I have to say that the virtual querty keyboard on the iPhone is as good as if not better than (due to better spell checking) my old querty keyboard. I can type out emails on my Blackberry Pearl significantly faster and more accurate than I can on any QWERTY keyboard, and that's because SureType allows me to minimize the amount of separate keys I have to dance across to write my message.
In any case the European model only can work if the prices are fair. $600 for a device where one with identical technology was sold for the exact same price 8 years ago, doesn't fly. Electronics are ALWAYS going down in price because the components get cheaper to make; look at LCD and plasma, compared to 10 years ago. Yet cell phone prices remain high and the manufacturers want massive profits. Basically, most devices are worth no more than half of what their MSRP is, especially the iPhone. You're not going to convince me that a little Samsung flip is worth $300. |
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android virtual keyboards are replaceable. just download a different one and make it your default on screen keyboard. I use speech-to-text so i don't have to use the on screen keyboard.
does iphone let you swap out the virtual keyboard? i don't know. just asking.
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if we get off the unsubsidized market phones will have to earn their keep. people will only spend money on what is good. (well i hope thats the case). the only reason the crap phones stay around is because people want cheap.
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I agree. The physical keyboard is one of the main draws. And for those of us who like to mod our devices, I hear it's kind of a pain in the ass to initiate some of the keystrokes required to flash the device when you don't have the physical keyboard. I almost never use the virtual keyboard.
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No you can't swap out the virtual keyboard on the iphone, but honestly I wouldn't want to, the default one is pretty good. |
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guess it depends on your usage, I'm usaully a hardware guy, worked as a network administrator for awhile, and love to tinker, but my phone is kind of off limits for tinkering. I want something that is easy and just works, so no reflashing devices, jailbreaking etc for me.
Beilieve me I'm tempted to tinker more, but don't want to risk stability. |
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dinosaur.... i love how my iphone has no physical keyboard... all simple for me, and it is really easy for me to get everything done.
phones with physical QWERTY are lame in my opinion, they're harder to clean |
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Jail breaking/modding the G1 is pretty simple and straight forward. The hardest part is finding all the files and the step-by-step procedures and even that's not really that difficult. As long as you are flashing the phone to known, stable ROM's, stability isn't typically an issue, although there's always that chance something goes wrong. I do understand your point-of-view though. I'd hate to brick a phone that I really, really rely upon.
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said by r81984:This phone is worthless without a QWERTY keypad. ... The palm pre has a QWERTY keypad. Palm gets it. There was a time when I'd readily agree with you; I went from an HTC PPC-6700 to an HTC PPC-6800 to a Palm Pre to an LG Lotus to the HTC Touch Pro2 to another Palm Pre to the HTC Hero. All the phones prior to the Hero had physical keyboards. Wanna know which phone I've enjoyed the most? The Hero, hands down. I can easily type as fast on it as I did with any previous phone thanks to its excellent design. Since owning the Hero I've come to realize that a physical keyboard adds unnecessary bulk and in the case of the Pre, just another point of hardware failure (the sliding mechanism on the Pre is extremely poorly designed).
I'll take a thinner phone with a well designed virtual keyboard over a thicker keyboard phone any day.
- Tate
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said by optemino:dinosaur.... i love how my iphone has no physical keyboard... all simple for me, and it is really easy for me to get everything done. phones with physical QWERTY are lame in my opinion, they're harder to clean No real keyboard is a step back for efficiency.
No physical keyboard is lame and it is just manufactures trying to cut costs to get more profit.
On my Nokia E70, I dont even have to look at the keypad.
To pay more on a phone than a laptop and not get a physical keypad is insane.
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| said by r81984:No real keyboard is a step back for efficiency. No physical keyboard is lame and it is just manufactures trying to cut costs to get more profit. On my Nokia E70, I dont even have to look at the keypad. To pay more on a phone than a laptop and not get a physical keypad is insane. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. However, I strongly disagree with your assertion that manufacturers release devices without keyboards as a cost cutting measure. No keyboard means less components to wear out and break down, leading to an overall more robust phone. Losing the added bulk of a keyboard also allows the manufacturer to release a thinner, more pocketable phone or keep the bulk and include a larger battery enabling longer time between charges. Virtual keyboards can also be more convenient. Case in point, on the Pre, you have to slide open the fragile keyboard each and every time you want to enter something into a field on a webpage or app, which can get tedious.
Obviously this all boils down to personal preference, which is of course highly subjective. Don't give virtual keyboards a bad rap though just because you've never encountered a well implemented one or lack the hand-eye coordination to use one effectively.
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First your opinion is not truth or fact, simply your opinion.
Second, paying anywhere near the price of a laptop for a phone is insane. |
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| said by Skippy25:Second, paying anywhere near the price of a laptop for a phone is insane. I agree but people still buy these phones.
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iansltx
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Real doesn't always > virtual. As the previous poster said the iPhone keyboard is VERY good (though I like the physical keyboard on my HTC Touch Pro better) and if Google can match that on a device with a bigger screen (e.g. the Nexus one) most people won't complain. |
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iansltx
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You actually can, but it requires a jailbreak. |
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said by iansltx:Real doesn't always > virtual. As the previous poster said the iPhone keyboard is VERY good (though I like the physical keyboard on my HTC Touch Pro better) and if Google can match that on a device with a bigger screen (e.g. the Nexus one) most people won't complain. Can you use an iphone keyboard without looking at it? |
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| Theoretically yes. Maybe a little harder than with a physical keyboard but it's still possible. It's not like the letters are moving all over the place.
Besides, why would you ever do that sort of thing? If you're looking at the screen then you're looking at the keyboard. |
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