dmine45
join:2002-11-03
Fredericksburg, VA | Does Verizon offer FIOS for small office/home office (SOHO)? Does anyone know if Verizon offsers a SOHO (small office/home office) Internet plan? I operate a small business out of my house and was wondering if they offer a SOHO plan?
I'm looking for a couple of static IP addresses and allow all ports to be open (including ports 25 and 80).
If they do offer it, does anybody know what the going monthly or yearly rates are?
Thanks!
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 darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:1 | Click on Small Business on the left: »www22.verizon.com/content/verizo···ess.aspx |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
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As darcilicious said.
Keep in mind static IPs from Verizon are hideously expensive, and are not available on the 15/5 plan.
If you want to run a non-critical web server that can tolerate being down for a few minutes when a dynamic IP address changes, you can use a service like »www.dyndns.com if your router supports it. Get a free account with them and put the credentials into your router. When the IP address changes, the router will automatically update the DynDns account.
Your choice would then be to either use the dyndns.org URL (example: www.your-user-name.dyndns.org ) or create a CNAME in the zone of your own domain name, such that www.YourDomainName.com is an alias for your-user-name.dyndns.org.
For 99% of the time, it will work great. Just understand that when your IP address changes, there might be a brief period of unreachability while the DNS changes propagate.
Now as for Port 25, think twice before you run a mail server (assuming 25 is even open on dynamic IP pools-- I don't know the answer). If this is an inbound gateway, you might not have trouble. But if you intend on running your own SMTP server to send mail outbound, forget it. Chances are good that your IP will be listed on one or more RBLs (blacklists). You're better off using a commercial email service-- most are quite cheap. |
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I have a small business I run from my home and have the 25/15 with 5 static ip's and it certainly is not hideously expensive, in NY its 109.99 with a 2 year agreement. the 5 static ips are 19.00 more than 1 static ip. I host a fairly active web and mail server as well as well as my home network. I've had the service for 3 years it has been flawless |
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said by rebus9:As darcilicious said. Chances are good that your IP will be listed on one or more RBLs (blacklists). I know you're referring to the dynamic IPs, but just for the record, my static FiOS IP is not on any blacklists. You'll always be paying more for a static IP, and will have to weigh all costs/benefits. |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
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1 edit | said by vincebusam:[I know you're referring to the dynamic IPs, but just for the record, my static FiOS IP is not on any blacklists. The unfortunate truth is, that's probably because you've been assigned from a relatively new netblock. Give it time. There are always exceptions, but generally speaking the level of clue is low among those who run their own mail servers off what is basically a consumer-grade internet connection. (best effort delivery, no SLA) These folks are typically the average Bob who drops a server OS install CD into his machine, sets up with default options and assumes all is well, when in reality he's just created an open relay, open proxy, anon-FTP with write enabled, or worse.
Once enough Bob's have been assigned into a given IP space, the RBLs eventually catch up. |
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| The ultimate truth is you don't have a clue. I have had business service since Sept 2006, guess they'll catch up any day now |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
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| said by rhard49:The ultimate truth is you don't have a clue. Really? Next time you plan to be in the Tampa, FL area, send me a PM. I'd be happy to give you a datacenter tour and demonstrate why my title of Director of Network Operations is a legitimate and well-earned title. (seriously) |
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| Seriously. I've been in the same field for many years not everyone is a bob or clueless. Last time I checked verizon was a tier one supplier, Static business FIOS is a great product your original statement is without merit in the SOHO market. |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
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| said by rhard49:I've been in the same field for many years not everyone is a bob or clueless. Last time I checked verizon was a tier one supplier, Static business FIOS is a great product The number of broadband connections is growing rapidly and the RBLs are going to lag behind. The Dynamic IP space I'm typing this reponse from (FIOS, actually) is not yet listed in any RBL, but give time.
As for VZ being a tier 1 supplier-- that has nothing to do with RBL listings. And yes, FIOS is a great product, which is why I have a biz-class FIOS connection at home.
said by rhard49:your original statement is without merit in the SOHO market. That's why I said "there are always exceptions" and used the phrase "generally speaking". Well-run mail servers hosted in-house do exist.
My point is when viewing the internet as a whole, you are more likely to see "bad things" happening on in-house servers than on well-run commercially operated servers which are (a) properly hardened, (b) rigorously patched, (c) constantly monitored-- spool sizes, traffic volumes, etc., and (d) in the hands of experienced, responsible administrators who know what to do if something bad happens. That is why the RBLs cover such a wide swath of consumer broadband IP space.
For a horrifying experience, browse some vendor forums like »www.smartertools.com/forums/12.aspx and read the questions asked by people who call themselves mail admins. The complete lack of even rudimentary knowledge is at epidemic proportions.
It's like driving a car down the street, and having to ask which pedal is the brake.
Before you brand me an elitist, realize that when someone turns up a public-facing server, it's their responsiblity to keep it from becoming a public nuisance (or menace) to the internet. If they don't have sufficient skills, they are adding to the "badness" that is already rampant.
It's always amazed me that we need a license to fish, but not a license to deploy public servers (which we know from experience can be exploited and used as launching pads for all forms of destructive acts-- hacking banks, hosting phishing sites, distributing malware, recruited into 'botnets, spamming, etc.) |
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 NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
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NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium
join:2005-12-15
Forest Grove, OR
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Verizon Business FiOS 15/5 Static IP = $99.99 w/2yr contract
Verizon Business FiOS 15/5 Dynamic IP = $49.99 w/2yr contract
RapidVPS.WindowsOne = $39.95 no contract, they earn your business month by month every month.
Total = $89.94
Aside from being $10/mo. less. The RapidVPS solution has many additional benifits over home hosting.
Just to name a few:
24/7 Support (if you like to work remotely who is at home to take care of system outages).
Datacenter (A/C, Power w/UPS, and equipment costs included)
2 IP Addresses no blocked ports
100 Mbps connection if I recall
And since they own their own IP space they are, in my experiance, keep out of the PBL's, DUL's, etc. that causes havoc with home run email MTA server.
You can maintain your own PTR record.
If you can handle admininistering Linux, a Rapid.One VPS will cut another $20/mo. off the bill.
For what you get, Verizon is just too expensive.
"Further, we are in control of our own IP space. As of April 2007, RapidVPS is an ARIN accredited ISP, holding a public network and public autonomous system number. These addresses belong to our company and not our bandwidth providers. This grants us even further independence from our vendors and bolsters the amount of control we have over our network. Only the larger and more successfull ISPs will ever attain their own IP space. If you perform a lookup at » arin.net on the IP address of almost every web host, you will find another web host. This means that other web host has ultimate control and authority over the IP addresses, and can do what they want with them. Choose a web host with control over their network, one that can independently analyze and solve problems without relying on a middle-man company that doesn't care about your service."
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