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joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

Self-confessed bandwidth nerd

Kudos to FIOS! As a self-confessed bandwidth nerd, I can tell you that 100M/100M service is wonderful to behold. I find new uses for it every day.

But if you think it's easy to push more than 100M thru a typical router/firewall, think again! I had to build a special router from a single-board computer to even get to this speed:


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Traceroute to Google?



gatorkram
KaBOOM Baby
Premium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Suddenlink

reply to joebarnhart

said by joebarnhart:

Kudos to FIOS! As a self-confessed bandwidth nerd, I can tell you that 100M/100M service is wonderful to behold. I find new uses for it every day.

But if you think it's easy to push more than 100M thru a typical router/firewall, think again! I had to build a special router from a single-board computer to even get to this speed:


Do you have room in your closet for me? If not, do you have room in your closet for a few servers?
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Give me bandwidth or give me death!
»/testhistory/661871/4f240


gatorkram
KaBOOM Baby
Premium
join:2002-07-22
Winterville, NC
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Suddenlink

Oh man, this is so not fair..

»paxio.net/ResidentialData

"Gigabit (1,000Mbps/1,000Mbps) - Need we say more? $245.00"


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Give me bandwidth or give me death!
»/testhistory/661871/4f240



Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

Ya.. No chance in hell we'll ever see that here.



dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4

reply to gatorkram

said by gatorkram:

Oh man, this is so not fair..

»paxio.net/ResidentialData

"Gigabit (1,000Mbps/1,000Mbps) - Need we say more? $245.00"


uhmmmmm assuming you're one of the 50 people that paxio is available to
meh
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majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1

reply to joebarnhart
yeah we got 100/100 fiber conenction to here at work last year (for 3,000 a month for 100/100 plus a 6 strand dark fiber connection between both buildings) and it rocks.

We ran into that problem also. Had to build a pfsense router from one of our servers to get the speed. Couldnt find a router under $1000 that woulld give us the speeds.

MY speeds are similiar to yours



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

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I have 150/150 at work but the experience isn't at all different from my 30/2 at home except for large downloads and similar.

We use cisco (not linksys) routers so there's no problem with the router being a bottleneck.



DarkLogix
Premium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3

reply to majortom1029

said by majortom1029:

yeah we got 100/100 fiber conenction to here at work last year (for 3,000 a month for 100/100 plus a 6 strand dark fiber connection between both buildings) and it rocks.

We ran into that problem also. Had to build a pfsense router from one of our servers to get the speed. Couldnt find a router under $1000 that woulld give us the speeds.

MY speeds are similiar to yours


ok so you spend 3K/month on bandwidth but wouldn't spend more than 1k(one time cost) on a router

somethings wrong there

for a connection like that I'm sure it would be easy to get a cisco 3945 router and have it handle it

as for router readyness I'm ready with my cisco 3745 which I've tested routing speeds to over 100mbit (need a faster computer to got higher on the test)


joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to iansltx
Your wish is my suggestion...

traceroute: Warning: google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.19.147
traceroute to google.com (74.125.19.147), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  my.pfsense.box (192.168.51.1)  0.956 ms  0.543 ms  0.394 ms
 2  64-201-y-x.TrueBroadband.paxio.net (64.201.y.x)  0.778 ms  0.911 ms  0.752 ms
 3  63-216-65-137.paxio.net (63.216.65.137)  1.311 ms  1.323 ms  1.009 ms
 4  63-216-64-193.paxio.net (63.216.64.193)  1.150 ms  1.282 ms  1.263 ms
 5  ge6-11.br01.sjo01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.7.57)  1.576 ms  1.552 ms  1.474 ms
 6  74.125.49.45 (74.125.49.45)  1.351 ms  1.420 ms  1.487 ms
 7  72.14.239.250 (72.14.239.250)  2.089 ms  33.754 ms 216.239.46.194 (216.239.46.194)  2.283 ms
 8  209.85.251.94 (209.85.251.94)  5.244 ms  4.309 ms  2.178 ms
 9  nuq04s01-in-f147.1e100.net (74.125.19.147)  2.090 ms  2.341 ms  1.907 ms
 


joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to majortom1029

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said by majortom1029:

Had to build a pfsense router from one of our servers to get the speed. Couldnt find a router under $1000 that woulld give us the speeds.
Hey, I'm a pfSense user too! It's an AWESOME firewall/router for the price (open source code). You can do absolutely anything with it -- even has neat RRD graphs like this latency view -- built in!

If anyone needs a kickass router, check it out! »www.pfsense.org


Simba7
I Void Warranties

join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

reply to joebarnhart
I do agree.. But why pay several thousand dollars for a router, when a darn PC running pfSense, m0n0wall, or Smoothwall will do the exact same thing?

..not to mention.. If a port goes out on a Cisco router, be prepared to fork over lots of $$$.. If a card goes out in a PC, just run to your local electronics store, pay under $50 for a decent network card, and swap it out.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to joebarnhart
Awesome Isn't it lovely not to have the 10ms lag of cable or the 20+ms lag of interleaved DSL? Sitting on a DSL connection right now and though I have a nice straight path from here (TX hill country) to Dallas my ping is 31ms due to first-hop latency (21ms). :/



joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to gatorkram

said by gatorkram:

Do you have room in your closet for me?
No, but I'm accepting applications for a girlfriend. Some nice 30's to 40's lady who appreciates my big pipe. Er... that didn't come out the right way...

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
kudos:1

1 edit

reply to DarkLogix
When your a library using public funds its really hard to justify the router expense when you have perfectly good hardware lying around.

We were able to justify the 1000/100 service because it came with the dark fiber connection.


AstroBoy

join:2008-08-08
Parkville, MD

reply to joebarnhart
That seems odd to me. My router is a Pentium 200MHz with 64MB RAM, and it routes/NAT at 25Mb down and 30Mb up with maybe 25% CPU load. I have not tried to max out the up and down at the same time. But I expect that 15 year old PC could handle it. So a newer P4 should do 100Mb without effort. The PC is running Linux and using iptables.

My FIOS service is 25/15 but I get 25/30.



joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

said by AstroBoy:

So a newer P4 should do 100Mb without effort. The PC is running Linux and using iptables.
I absolutely agree. I'm using a VIA powered single-board computer running pfSense. I have an Intel Pro-1000 card with 2 ports for WAN and LAN and a built in port for DMZ (isolated wireless). An iptables solution on a Linux box would do fine as well.

But realize, this is about 1000% more capability than most people get from their Fry's "Airlink" brand no-name router for $39. Actually, even the name brand Linksys, Netgear, etc. routers won't come close to powering a 100M/100M connection.

With pfSense and my VIA board I can get 100M/100M and not saturate the box. I'll need a local speedtest server to see if I can push any more thru this box. Using a lower-powered "wrap" or "alix" platform from PC Engines I can get up to about 40M. It would be a perfect solution for a FiOS user.

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